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Is the recession over?

Posted Jul 15 2009, 12:11 PM by Kim Peterson
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Once again, economic observers are coming forward to declare that the recession is over.

But what about the still-increasing unemployment rate and the still-dour retail climate? Pfft, they say. Ignore those numbers and break out the party hats. So are these guys right? Let's examine the evidence.

GDP Growth. A St. Louis consulting firm that tracks gross domestic product says that its GDP index was tracking -0.1% for the second quarter, but has turned up to 2.4% for the third quarter. The nation's biggest banks also say they expect GDP to grow in the third quarter.

Permanent change. The Economic Cycles Research Institute says the recession is ending this summer, and may be already over, according to Slate. That's because it's seeing a sustained rise in leading indicators, and most of the indicators are heading in the same direction.

Fragile recovery. Merrill Lynch analysts said this week that "the recession is over" and that the economy has begun a "fragile recovery," according to the Los Angeles Times. The analysts think the Fed will keep the short-term interest rate close to zero until 2011. Investors sitting on their cash should start buying stocks, Merrill says. (Say, Merrill wouldn't have any ulterior motive here, would it?)

The normal recession lasts about 18 months, some economists say. If that held true this time around, the recession should have ended last month. But this is not a normal recession.

The problem is that unemployment is still ticking up, and without positive job numbers in sight, it's very tough to call the end of the recession. A recovery is not immediately evident, forcing experts to grab hold of anything they think might be the early sputtering of an engine coming back to life.

The folks who give the official word of the recession's end won't do so for a long time. The National Bureau of Economic Research didn't call the end of the 2001 recession until a year and a half after the fact, the Calculated Risk blog notes. The bureau took even longer to acknowledge the end of the 1990-1991 recession. But one economist on the bureau's business cycle committee took the unusual step recently of declaring the recession officially over.

We may be headed for a jobless recovery. Even Fed chairman Ben Bernanke seems resigned to the possibility. And for many Americans, that won't feel like a recovery at all.

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Comments

 

Deficit spending this year is 4x the previous (and outrageous) highest level.  Deficit spending will continue at unprecidented levels in the future and we have not even started to deal with the cost of Health Care Reform, SS, Medicare/Medicade reform, the energy crisis or global warming.  

But, Goldman Sachs is paying mega-bonus dollars, so the recession is over - unless you are amoung the increasingly unemployed or the long-term unemployed who are running out of benefits.... let them eat cake, say the Goldman bunch!

What an amazing spin of "recovery" and "recession is over".

Idiots. It is about to get far worse.

Wait for the 11% unemployment rate and an additional trillion dollars in deficit spending. Recession over? Where did these people get their degrees, Sears?

By the way, the recession started in JULY of 2008, not January. Look at the BEA numbers for yourself. 18 months, pfah.

The Smart people, Peter Schiff, George Soros, Warren Buffet, Cina,India,Europe

do not buy into the "recession is Over". They are quite concerned bout the eroding value of the dollar and super inflation to show it's ugly head comming about by our Governments mega Debts. Thus with planed and talked about more huge spending ahead.

This is just simply an uptick in our economy spurned on by the speculators in the market place on wall street. Many countrys are now demanding that the American Dollar be replaced as the reserve currency and are not accumulating the dollar as they did in the past. Sorry, this does not speak well for our Dollar and faith in the future of America's economy. This current Government appears to be creating the bigest crash in the American History and not to far out in the future. Solid commodities will win out the day. Stay Strong.

And don't forget about inflation that will be on the rise in the near future!

What planet are these people from???? Our so called leaders were telling us for most of 2008 we were not in a recession and we had been in one since late 2007. We are many months away from the end of this recession/depression. I am concerned we have not seen the worst yet. The job loss situation is much worse than the numbers show. I am guessing we are not far from 20% real unemployment already. We have an idiot in Washington on a madman spending spree. What you do you think the burden he is laying on corporate America is going to do to the employment numbers? If corporations are forced to add on extra expense due to the health care reform the employees will pay for it with job loss.

The recession will really be over when I stop reading posts like this one.  :-)

Is it ending? in my opinion no not yet

Is it as bad as the previous gloomy posters? also a resounding no

DO not belive the hype .OUR own goverment lide about when the resseion started

now they are trying to tell us its ending .its all hype. they are playing reverese scicogily on us just so we go out and spend some money .when the unemployed get employed that when i will belive its ending until then i dont belive the lies.

Randy, dude, come out of your cave and read a newspaper or two.  Catch the nightly news.

Deficit spending is required in large quantities (Warren Buffet is urging more) to avoid a second Great Depression.  Economics 101.  Relax and leave the driving to Bernanke and those with an actual understanding of macroeconomics.

Significant work, progress, and preliminary plans have already been formulated and continue to progress in each of the areas you cited.  The difference is that we now have a literate, educated, action-oriented President who will not be spending his time rewarding big oil, big war, or finishing tasks not attended to by his father.  Lighten up and enjoy the change.

My income, my investments and my wallet will tell me when the recession is over. I am still seeing one third less in my investments, less pay, and less disposable income. Expensive stores and restaurants are still not busy, and I'm not spending the money I don't have in them either. I am less worried about missing the next surge up than about the next drop, so it will be a long time before I spend more. You worry about the recession being over. I'll worry about my income, investments and wallet.

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