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You can keep your job -- if you move to India

Posted May 13 2009, 01:26 PM by Catherine Holahan
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  A one-way ticket from France to Bangalore, India: $628

  Pay cut: 1,731 euros per month

  Avoiding a layoff: priceless?

  French textile workers were recently made an offer that most, undoubtedly, refused: relocate to India and work for local wages or lose their job. The Times of London reported May 12 that the Carreman company gave its employees the unenviable choice in part to comply with French labor laws. 

Carreman told workers they could keep their jobs if they moved to Bangalore at a 96% pay cut, according to the Times. They were not offered airline tickets. A recent online search put the cost of a one-way ticket from Charles De Gaulle airport in Paris to Bangalore airport at about $628, with a plane change.

Offshoring jobs to relatively cheaper Asian and Eastern European countries, such as India and the Czech Republic, has long been a subject of contentious debate in both Europe and the United States. But the global economic downturn has pushed the issue into the headlines again. Faced with sharp drops in demand, many companies are choosing to cut costs by moving jobs to cheaper countries. In March, IBM announced that it would cut 4,000 jobs and move them to India, sparking a public outcry.  Forrester research estimates that as many as 3.3 million jobs will move overseas by 2015.

The acceleration of work moving overseas has spurred politicians to take action. This month, President Barack Obama promised to close tax loopholes for companies that move work abroad (whether by hiring foreign workers for the same jobs, aka offshoring, or contracting out jobs to foreign companies, aka outsourcing, is not clear).

"I want to see our companies remain the most competitive in the world. But the way to make sure that happens is not to reward our companies for moving jobs off our shores or transferring profits to overseas tax havens," Obama said in a May 4 speech announcing plans to change the tax code to help discourage outsourcing.

French Prime Minister Nicolas Sarkozy has made similar promises, backing laws intended to reduce the number of jobs moving outside of France and offering to help bail out the country's auto industry only if the auto manufacturers did not move jobs to other countries.

The Carreman case is just one example of the consequences such laws can have, intended or not. IBM also offered to allow employees to keep their jobs if they moved abroad to cheaper countries.

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Comments

 

its very simple do not support or buy products from any company that ships jobs overseas and make sure you let them know that. Nothing speaks lounder then lost sales. I understand it is diffcult to buy products that are truly made here but arent american jobs worth the effort. The line has to be drawn somewhere we need to bring back the values that made us great once upon a time.

We need accountability and it has to start with us the american people. Politicians always have and always will be useless. Its up to us blue collar workers to set the stage do you part wherever you can.

This message is for "unions of the world unite":

If you do not have the intellect to convey your emotions, do not open your mouth. The comments written here, are by your own country fellows, read how they respond to the issue. So show some dignity and maturity in dealing with issues and try to rationlize and have some basic educated sense about history and culture of other countries. Just like how HS pointed out, India started the Swadeshi movement long time ago. We could either copy that or try our own methods inorder to stop outsourcing jobs. If you do not want to move to India that's fine, nobody is forcing anyone. But if you are trying to call the country "whore" and "cheap", first know your own history of this country. What would you say about it???

You voted for them now we what you have is what you were stupid enough to vote for, and it is simple economics.  You handed our country to  your competitors and you wonder where there is no jobs, it started in the mid 90's, Clinton did it to   you starting with IBM look for "Congressional H1B Visas Legislation" specifically "H1B-Info".  Wake up!!! you were lied and cheated and don't even know it.  With a little reserch you will find it all. Some one came out millionairesand it sure wasn't me!!! Always look at Congress!!!!!

Since all people are equal (equality, liberty, fraternity ... according to the French), then surely working for Indian wages as a Frenchman won't be any problem at all?

Look at the facts. first there are people in the world that will work for less because they have nothing.  Second you have much more and want to keep your life style for the same job only thousands of dollars more.  Third this is not about you it is about where can the business get people to do the job for the cheapest labor.  forth at one time we were the cheap labor (huge sweat factories in our big cities in the 1900's). Don't want to compete with the country on the other side of the globe?  Retrain and recreate yourself or move to India there are our choices.  We have community education systems that allow this at a very cheap price.  I can assure you India does not and will not have these systems to use to recreate themselves for a long time. There cheap labor is endless.  And we are not! Face the facts and react while the iron is hot or sit in what you make.

Signed

Retrained

The problem with Western / Civilized nations is the population is so brainwashed that labor is not cool and its 'below' us to do manual work, that these 2nd and 3rd world economies, with their growing population is all too glad to take over these jobs. It does not help that we have these Corrupt Unions and their Socialist mentality leaders (tell me, where else can a assembly line workers, with hardly a college degree, get a $60-$90K/year pay in ANY other industry and in some cases a Guaranteed, Full pay when laid-off to end it all with a Cushy pension to retire) and the blood sucking Lawyers, who look for any opportunity to SUE and help you SUE your own mother.

WHY THE HELL IS EVERYTHING BEING SENT TO INDIA?! IT'S KIND OF INSULTING IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT..MANY COMPANIES IN COUNTRIES SUCH AS THE U.S ARE OUT SOURCING A LOT OF THE WORK.  I LOST MY JOB BECAUSE THE COMPANY DECIDED TO SEND THE WORK TO INDIA. THIS HAPPENED TO HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT I WORKED WITH..THEY JUST CLOSED UP SHOP.

We blame corporate America for sending jobs overseas, when in fact we're to blame.  We're to blame because we demand higher margins on our 401K and company stocks, our investments.  We want lower prices for clothing, appliances, and as a result, because we aren't willing to live within our means, we buy, and buy more.  We demand more of a return and drive our jobs overseas so corporate America can meet the demands of their stockholders.

Our demise is just that.  Our demise.  

Until we are content with having less, wanting less, we'll continue to farm out jobs to other countries.

The sad thing is, we're in debt to the Chinese for generations to come.  The great American dollar, not so great anymore.

Revotion is the only answer.

Hi, I'm a Thirld-World national (Argentina) living in France since 1997. I can confirm French law obliges employers to make a formal offer to their employees to relocate in any other office belonging to the parent company, including those in  foreign countries (and adjusting to local standards... usually much worse!).

I just want to nuance the post by HS at 05.13.09 3:35 PM) : the "greedy" people are not only the "topline executives", but first and foremost, the bloody GREEDY TOPLINE STOCKHOLDERS. Let's remember it was those greedy stockholdeers who brought those other greedy executives.

Good luck for your fight to keep your jobs; here in France this is seriously looking like a combination of Waterloo and Trafalgar, I hear it's about the same in most of Europe. I think the employees and workers of the world should unite much more and better.

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