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Viva Las Vegas: Depression hits the Strip

Posted Feb 12 2009, 07:09 AM by Douglas McIntyre
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Casino gambling is part of the American Dream. "The World Series of Poker" gets better ratings than the Super Bowl.  But, even the gaming industry is in trouble. The people who have visions of making millions on one roll of the dice are out of work

Dow Jones reports that the overall take on the Las Vegas Strip was down 23% to $474 million in December.

The madness of gambling is based on the belief that either the player will win or somehow come up with the money if he loses. Since gamblers frequenting casinos rarely win, the real issue is their ability to pay off debt. Las Vegas has become like the rest of America. Visitors to the city were just late coming around to the realization that borrowing has gone out of vogue. If most large American banks were based in Las Vegas they would still be buying toxic paper and lending money for leveraged buyouts.

Legalized gambling was set up in cities like Las Vegas so that the depravity of betting on cards and dice could be contained in one or two cities. The plan was not unlike Prohibition would have been if the only places to drink were Akron and Erie. Confining gambling turned out to be difficult once it became a staple on Indian reservations and on flat bottom boats anchored just beyond the jurisdiction of the local authorities in many river towns.

It would be too easy to say that the Las Vegas culture slipped out of the city and ended up at the lower tip of Manhattan. But, gambling on Wall Street predates the day in 1946 when Bugsy Siegel opened the Flamingo Hotel.

One of the things that happens in an especially sharp and unexpected economic downturn is that the gambling instinct gets kicked out of everyone. That goes from the man at the Black Jack table who has been up 48 hours drinking Scotch and trying to win a few hundred dollars back, to the person who is too afraid to bet a portion of his income on buy a house because it may lose some of its value.

It is normal for a man who won’t buy a car because he is worried about his job is to stay out of casinos. But, when a man who stays up all night gambling won’t buy a car, the economy is in deep trouble.

Top Stocks blogger Douglas A. McIntyre is an editor at 24/7 Wall St.

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Comments

 

The trouble that Vegas has wouldn't be related to the $8 charge for water or $28 Margaritas or $15 minimums at the crap table? Would it? My wife and I visited Vegas for the last time in April of 08. We went at least twice a year for the the last 20 years and always had a great time for a reasonable amount of money. During our trip last April we were totally blown away by the cost of everything! We are middle class folks who no longer can aford to visit Vegas. We now take day trips to local casinos that do not charge for a drink of water.

I agree.  Vegas prices are the real cause.  I make a great salary and can't afford to do anything there.  I wanted to go to a club for my bachelor party. 8 guys.  The club wanted $150 per person entry fee and we had to bring 8 girls and then still pay for drinks.  I am sorry, but if I am going to pay $1200 for a 8 guys to go dancing, I am not bringing the girls.  Very little Value in Vegas.

On the strip during the weekends you can't find a table under a $20 minimum. Downtown still has very reasonable room rates and you can find $5 tables; but the rooms and dining downtown aren't great.

Golf has gone off the meter. $200-$300 per round. You might get a small discount if you stay at one of the A-list hotels.

Dave Reed, if you play games the drinks are free. Aside from that I do agree with you that Vegas has become overpriced. However it has also become a world city.

I AGREE---WE JUST GOT BACK FROM VEGAS, HAD OUR SON'S 21 THERE-$900 FOR A TABLE AT PURE-THEN TIPS/GRATUITY-$1200 BEFORE DONE--THEN THEY HAD A TABLE OUTSIDE--WAS RAINING--FOOD WAS VEEEERY HIGH ALL OVER VEGAS----DRINKS IMPOSSIBLE UNLESS YOU WERE GAMBLING--THEN THEY WERE EVEN HIGHER BECAUSE WE LOST MONEY AT THE SLOTS---WON'T BE BACK ANYTIME SOON

Ex Vegas Rat.  Chew on this info.  15 years ago gambling accounted for 80 percent of Vegas's  overall revenue and 20 percent was from entertainment(drinking, rooms, and shows).  Now it's been taken over by corporate america and the paper pushers saw the money it could pillage from entertainment side.  The numbers are flipped now and 80 percent comes from entertainment.  It was great in a good economy but when people cut entertainment out when times are tough you see what's happening.

Does anyone remember the day when casinos used to treat the middle class like stars.  The service has become so tainted on the strip because of the corporate mantality.  Who would of thought the mob did a better job then our current CEO's.

There is one place that keeps the right philosophy on the strip and thats the Wynn.  Thank you Mr. Wynn for keeping things right!  dannygooodguy@hotmail.com

Agree...

Attended a small conference in Vegas and blown away by the prices.  Breakfast for two at the hotel almost $50.  Everyone wants a tip for doing nothing or very little.  Smut magazines blowing all over on the streets.  Never saw one winner in any casino.  People - boycott the place and prices will come down.

I haven't had as much fun in the Casino's since they changed coins for paper....the Casino's used to sound fun and exciting when the coins hit the trays everyone looked like they were having a great time scooping their money into buckets...now it just sounds and looks boring. We also used to get a lot of comp, years ago I never paid for food now I do good if I can get a sandwich for free. I will be glad when they start taking care of the middle class again.

I don't understand the big brains at the mega property marketing departments. We have been going to LV for 10 years on a regular basis(3-4 tmes yearly) and usually spend wager with a daily loss limit of about $750. Since we stay for 5-6 days each visit they have kept about $3000 for each trip.

The meals and entertainment was reasonable until about 3 years ago but recently we haven't even been given room comps and we stay at the same hotel all the time.

As a result we are not gaming as much when we go and we aren't going as often.

So they can overcharge for the food, rooms and entertainment and see us maybe once or twice a year and we now drop half as much in the casino.

What is the strategy?

Hey but why should I worry, I'm saving five grand a year and will travel elsewhere and go to local casinos when I feel like playing poker or a little craps.

I was in Vegas in January and it was D-E-A-D and they are still trying to outbuild each other; I predict it will be a desert again within 50 years.

I have been going to Vegas since 1965 and have seen many changes. Hotels, food and drinks cost very little because they knew they would get our money on the tables or machines. Entertainment was reasonable but is out of sight now. I still go but not as often and I no longer stay on the strip. Boulder Highway is your best bargain but even there its expensive. The reason for food prices costing so much is because the locals take advantage of eating there without spending money for gaming. Even so, its still cost too much. I don't blame the locals but anyone from out of town staying in their hotel should be given a better break than the rating system they use. If the economy does not improve, Las Vegas will be a has been.

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