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The 'green' revolution in cars dies off

Posted Jan 13 2009, 07:06 AM by Douglas McIntyre
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Up until now, the biggest obstacle to the sale of hybrid cars is that some Americans think the people who drive them are sissies. That may be true, but Toyota has sold more than one million of its Prius models worldwide. Honda is not far behind with its less expensive models. The Big Three could not fit all their electric and ethanol-powered cars onto the showroom floor at the Detroit Car Show.

Toyota now admits that the sales of its Prius are dying in the U.S. That is because of two things. One is that no cars are selling at all. The other is that hybrids are expensive. The price of all the extra technology gets passed on to the consumers.

U.S. auto firms are getting into the "green" car business at just the wrong time, which is consistent with the rest of their behavior over the last four decades. Oil prices are moving back toward $30 and many economists believe this that will be the new normal. China and India have cut imported oil as their economies slow. Americans would rather ride bikes that drive cars.

When Americans do look at a new car, their vision is likely to be short-sighted. Gasoline is back under $1.70 and if oil moves down further prices will fall more. If a hybrid runs $5,000 more than a traditional gas car, who is going to pay that difference to save the environment. No one, particularly when the cost of filling up is down by more than half what is was last summer. Who cares what happens in 2015?

The green car revolution was based on the premise that the average man could help the Amazon rain forests and save money on driving at the same time.

Send a memo to the monkeys. The trees are going away.

Top Stocks blogger Douglas A. McIntyre is an editor at 24/7 Wall St.

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Comments

 

You would think that anyone that could invent the Internet could surely solve the global warming problem....

LOL!!!

OMG... I kill myself...

I'm outa here

Hey, if there are all these wonderful alternatives to fossile fuels, where were they when gas was $4.00 per gallon?  Oh, right...

Face it, if these technologies and fuels were any more than pipe dreams, someone would not only have them patented, they'd be gearing up their own company to sell the engines and fuels and make a mint.

There may be a couple that might be able to hit the market place in the next several years, but for now, gas is what we got.  

Don't like oil?  Well, stop taking the bus, riding the train, doing anything with an engine at all.  Your electricity most likely comes from coal, maybe nuclear, but many don't like that either, so you can't use an electric car.  You can ride a bike, but if you wear a helmet, better make it a leather one, since plastics are petroleum products.  Better hope you're not against leather too.

Seriously, you've got to look at the trade-offs involved before you argue that the government should coerce people into doing something.  Nothing is ever so simple as "Everything will be fine if we just force people to live as I want them to."

In the "Computer World" it is "garbage in and garbage out"!  In the financial world you "Get what you pay for"!  In Al Gore's world "He gets your money"!  So lets wake up and put a stop to this stupidity!  Call, write,E-Mail, telegram whtever to the so called leaders and demand they stop all this non-sense!

Bear, Im sorry about riling up the PETA dorks.

Bear, we are blessed to have "Hope and Change" as our next president. He can do everything......take money only from the rich to give to the poor, spend a trillion $ without raising my taxes (I'm middle class), save the planet from carbon, and make nice with terrorist by just understanding their pain and giving them a hug. He should be in a comic book, "the big eared blowhard superhero".

John - It takes some time to get the wheel rolling, which could be part of the problem. Let's assume for arguments sake that there is a price at which alternative fuel etc. becomes cost effective, say like $3.50 a gallon gas (this is a number chosen out of thin air). If you have to set up infrastructure, design etc. for alternatives once gas prices reach this price then there will be some lag until all of the design etc. gets completed. The stuff coming out now could be designs started when gas was at levels that would justify it. Bottom line - the only way people will stop consuming so much gas is for economic reasons. My solution, $1/gall gas tax hike to help reduce foreign oil dependency and spur alternative developments not to mention cutting into a ginormous deficit that is currently projected

The Green Revolution is not dying out, but just getting started.  Electric cars are becoming more widely available, and the next generation diesels are great.  Solar power is becoming more affordable, and cycling is on the upturn.  Change comes in waves, but just because the change is slowing doesn't mean change is not occurring at all.  the movement in the green directon is continuous, just at varying rates.  The movement dies only when we go in the opposite direction, like an even large SUV and a junking of hybrids.  Only American car companies are dumb enough to do things like that!

Yes - higher fuel taxes are the only sensible solution.  Make people pay the true cost of the fuel they consume.  Don't forget to include ALL costs, including actually maintaining our collapsing bridges, smog, global warming, and military costs to defend access to imports.  I suspect $4-$5 a gallon should cover it.

Oh, don't want to pay that much?  Buy an electric car.  Poor people hurt?  Lower their income tax.

Politicians need to stop tap dancing around the real issue and fix it already.

Global warming is as real as when some people pointed out back when we invaded Iraq that we didn't have proof of them having WMDs and they were treated like fools by the ignorant mass.  Then these same ignorants started waking up to reality accusing Bush of lying. It won't be too long before they start waking up and seeing the light, give it time. LOL.

"All truth goes through three stages: First it is ridiculed; second it is violently opposed; and third, it is accepted as self-evident."  Arthur Shopenhauer

I'm form portland & are buses (tri-met) uses bi-diesel at a cost to the tax payer of over $8/gal. real smart. Why is there a gas tax to mantain are roads? why not a bike tax & electric car tax they drive on them also. Global warming is real because in the 80's ther was giong to be an ICE AGE! so it has to warm up now!

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