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Surprise! We're officially in a recession

Posted Dec 01 2008, 12:44 PM by Kim Peterson
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In case anyone wasn't sure, we are now officially in a recession. That's according to the National Bureau of Economic Research, which met on Friday and determined that the current recession began in December 2007.

It may have not seemed like a recession at the time. That's because the U.S. hit a peak in economic activity during that month. Employment was at a high, and other indicators, such as manufacturing and production, were also approaching peaks. But the long slide down began then.

It's pretty clear now that we are in a recession, but experts weren't sure exactly when it began. The bureau's report gives a definite starting point. And signs point to a more severe recession in the Midwest -- in fact, it could be as bad as the recession of 1981-1982, according to professors at Creighton University.

On top of all this is word that U.S. manufacturing is contracting at the fastest pace in 26 years.

Investors are reacting to recession concerns by flocking to treasuries, but now treasury yields are so low that fund managers "have little chance of offering anything but subpar returns in 2009," according to Bloomberg.

Airlines are reacting to the recession by cutting capacity. Airlines have already cut seating capacity by 10%, and may cut another 8%, according to Blomberg.

So when will the recession end? We won't know until we're long out of it. Economists will have to analyze several months of indicators to pinpoint the moment when the economy started expanding again. 

In fact, we could already be out of the recession now. The typical postwar recession has lasted 10 months. But it sure doesn't feel like the economy is in expansion mode these days.

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What a long strange trip its been. this recession has been building for years the only thing that put it off was the banks giving out credit to everyone no matter what. Of course eventually that had to explode and it did into what we have today. You can not keep raising prices, raising corporate pay at an exagerated rate, ship out jobs over seas and not pay the average american enough to keep up with inflation and not have it blow up in your face eventually. Really the more you fall behind inflation the harder it is to purchased anything let alone large ticket items. You can' t finance a car for three or four years anymore you can't afford the payment. Its not so much people living beyond their means its the fact that its becoming impossible to live within your income braket anymore. So what happens people refinance the house as it goes up in value so they can pay off that credit card so they can afford that car payment because they had to finance the last one until it had a bazillion miles on it. Corporate greed is the sole cause of this whole mess and until they realize they have to pay someone enough to purchase their items this recession will never go away. Because they sure dont pay enough in China for them to purchase the items they make for us.

She is a nice, well-educated woman with occluded vision.  We are watching a patient die (our economy).  We are watching a depression happen.  In fact, this stock market has fallen lower than the 44% nosedive of 1929.  It's just that we're having it spoonfed in little psychological doses.

Heck, it can go up in just a day or two and they'll call it "Stocks Soar!" when it's still lower and not recovered much at all in terms of avgs.  In fact, we could go down to 5,000 just after christmas!

This little  souffle` is collapsing in a slow drawn-out sigh.  Who's kidding who.

She is a nice, well-educated woman with occluded vision.  We are watching a patient die (our economy).  We are watching a depression happen.  In fact, this stock market has fallen lower than the 44% nosedive of 1929.  It's just that we're having it spoonfed in little psychological doses.

Heck, it can go up in just a day or two and they'll call it "Stocks Soar!" when it's still lower and not recovered much at all in terms of avgs.  In fact, we could go down to 5,000 just after christmas!

This little  souffle` is collapsing in a slow drawn-out sigh.  Who's kidding who.

What a long strange trip its been. this recession has been building for years the only thing that put it off was the banks giving out credit to everyone no matter what. Of course eventually that had to explode and it did into what we have today. You can not keep raising prices, raising corporate pay at an exagerated rate, ship out jobs over seas and not pay the average american enough to keep up with inflation and not have it blow up in your face eventually. Really the more you fall behind inflation the harder it is to purchased anything let alone large ticket items. You can' t finance a car for three or four years anymore you can't afford the payment. Its not so much people living beyond their means its the fact that its becoming impossible to live within your income braket anymore. So what happens people refinance the house as it goes up in value so they can pay off that credit card so they can afford that car payment because they had to finance the last one until it had a bazillion miles on it. Corporate greed is the sole cause of this whole mess and until they realize they have to pay someone enough to purchase their items this recession will never go away. Because they sure dont pay enough in China for them to purchase the items they make for us.

it's easy to know who started the economic problem & why.  look at yourself!  if you haven't figured it out yet then you haven't been paying attention.  america is a country of wanters & instant gratification mongers.  i bought a car 2 years ago & my payments were 80% of my income-yet the bank said ok  --  that's when i realized something was wrong-i sold the car & paid off as much debt as i could, i sat back & watched the mayhem!  look what happened---it's was easy to borrow money for something but it's a pain in the royal #@% to pay it back---i hope we learn from this one and can escape without too many wounds

It is nice to see so many people actually understand what I was saying.

Other than the spelling police... but thanks to the guy who ran all over the spelling police back there! Seriously... communication matters... not the i's and t's...

I'm also glad to see someone confirm what I was saying about the downturn and back it up with what I was witnessing occur.

However... everyone has started saying the right things now... unfortunately...

What are you going to do about it?

If you handle this mess the same way you handled the buildup... you're going to get the same mess.

Because as someone so nicely pointed out... this is likely just the tip of this iceberg... 5000? I originally predicted 6500 back in October 2007... I'm redoing the math now... I really hate seasonal fluctuations...

However... one stat that isn't out yet but will be showing... November didn't show the usual decline in foreclosures we expect to see for the season... seasonal adjustment only makes it look worse...

Oh just give me some prozac...this economy just makes us feel so hopeless...like what else can I do.. I've been a good citizen and have followed all the rules..savings. . LTC insurance.. IRA's..no credit card debt...but loosing money hand over fist......nap time!!

The first responsibility of a good citizen is to question their government.

America has lacked true resolve in facing their government for a long time now.

maybe when the US debt becomes so large as to be unbearable the FED call pull a Donald Trump and renegotiate with all the foreign creditors at a greatly reduced interest rate, with the U.S. being seen as "too big to fail". Now that is something to look forward to!  

our economies decline has mirrored  our countries decline in everyday values.  we have beocme spineless in accepting whatever the media chooses to present, whether in so called entertainment or worse yet, so called news.

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