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Surprise! We're officially in a recession

Posted Dec 01 2008, 12:44 PM by Kim Peterson
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In case anyone wasn't sure, we are now officially in a recession. That's according to the National Bureau of Economic Research, which met on Friday and determined that the current recession began in December 2007.

It may have not seemed like a recession at the time. That's because the U.S. hit a peak in economic activity during that month. Employment was at a high, and other indicators, such as manufacturing and production, were also approaching peaks. But the long slide down began then.

It's pretty clear now that we are in a recession, but experts weren't sure exactly when it began. The bureau's report gives a definite starting point. And signs point to a more severe recession in the Midwest -- in fact, it could be as bad as the recession of 1981-1982, according to professors at Creighton University.

On top of all this is word that U.S. manufacturing is contracting at the fastest pace in 26 years.

Investors are reacting to recession concerns by flocking to treasuries, but now treasury yields are so low that fund managers "have little chance of offering anything but subpar returns in 2009," according to Bloomberg.

Airlines are reacting to the recession by cutting capacity. Airlines have already cut seating capacity by 10%, and may cut another 8%, according to Blomberg.

So when will the recession end? We won't know until we're long out of it. Economists will have to analyze several months of indicators to pinpoint the moment when the economy started expanding again. 

In fact, we could already be out of the recession now. The typical postwar recession has lasted 10 months. But it sure doesn't feel like the economy is in expansion mode these days.

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Speaking of overinflated salaries and benefits ---- Can any one explain to me exactly what the executives of these big companies seeking bail outs do for their paycheck? Read a few reports? Attend meetings in luxury resorts all over the world (Flying there in the Company Jet of course), Write checks to PAC's and Senators and Congressmen? Oh wait they have secretary's who do that don't they? Exactly what do they do o justify a salary  of 10's of millions of dollars and benefit packages  of 10's of millions more that pay them even if they get fired for gross mismanagement!

I want a job as CEO of General Motors where do I apply? It's not listed on the job board here at the UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE!

Jendia,

I don't pay much attention to the media in making decisions or forming opinions.  Most of the media is liberally biased anyway.  Most of America relies on the news.  Therefore, most of America voted for Obama.

Making decisions based upon fear is logical reasoning.  Geez, if a cat sees a charging, barking dog running towards it, it better have fear.  Fear will make it runaway, climb a tree or hop a fence.  Fear is an emotion that propells one to action or inaction.  Perhaps after the housing bust, "living the American dream" will not include buying a house one cannot afford nor relying on it to always go up in value as a fat piggybank one can slowly siphon off funds from.

There really is nothing to be said anymore... seriously... you people aren't uninformed... some of you are delusional... some of you  believe in things that don't exist... but you're not incapable of doing things for yourselves.

But you're entirely incapable of doing things together anymore... you'd rather be told what to do together...

Maybe its because you're so disconnected from those right next to you...

Ironic, But True:

John started the day early having set

his

Alarm clock ( Made in Japan ) for

6 am.

While his coffeepot (Made in China)

was perking, he shaved with his

Eledctric razor ( Made In Hong Kong )

He put on a  Dress shirt ( made in Sri Lanka ),

Designer Jeans ( Made In Singapore ) and

Tennis shoes ( Made in Korea )

After cooking his breakfast in his new

Electric skillet ( Made in India )

He sat down with his  Calculator ( Made In Mexico )

To see how much he could spend

today. After setting his

Watch ( Made In Taiwan )

To the radio ( Made In India )

He got in his car ( Made In Germany )

Filled it with GAS ( From Saudi Arabia )

And continued his search for a good paying

AMERICAN JOB.

At the end of yet another discouraging

And fruitless day,

Checking his  computer ( Made In Malaysia ),

Joe decided to relax for a while.

He put on his sandals ( Made In France)

And turned on his T. V. ( Made In Indonesia ),

And then wondered why he can't find

A good paying job In AMERICA...

Ichigo,

Take another pill, slam another shooter; I'm sure you will see things better by the morning.  You are right though, most people are like cattle being led to the slaughter.  The tv tells them to buy this or that so they buy it.  

Not I.  I am one of the smart, logical and informed human beings.

Ichigo,

One more thing:  The Financial Times began having articles on the impending financial crisis and housing bust way back in August of 2006, maybe even earlier.  I sold most of my real estate holdings by the summer of 2007.  Yeah it costs a lot to subscribe to but the best tools do cost more than the lousy tools.

Angel;

you got it right. I tried to get my money out of the US last year before the s**t hit the fan because anyone who was paying attention knew that things were going to rapidly go downhill. Guess what? because of what is written in the Patriot Act, you can't take money ( in any large sum) out of the country. I bet top exec's who got bail-out money ON TOP of their multi-million ( and billion) dollar bonuses got their money offshore. with NAFTA and the "Free Trade" agreements that benefit large corporations by taking jobs overseas where labor is cheap, they shot themselves ( and our economy) in the foot. Unemployed Americans cannot only not afford to pay their mortgages, they also lose thier disposable income for anything else. How dare our elected officials point their corrupt  fat little fingers at us in blame!! Bankers created this mess...they made loads of money convincing people their homes were worth more than what their actual worth was. They rolled in loads of money with closing costs, refinancing fees and title searches.What a racket. The increases were nonexistent. They created this mess and then once real estate plummets, they kick people out of their homes and take thier assets. Bankers have always been the scourge of the world.

Walt,

I do agree that fear is certainly a great motivator.  I mean look at all the people rushing out to buy things they couldn't afford because they were afraid they were somehow missing out on "the good life".  As FDR once said, "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself."  Fear can be a reasonable response to a biological threat; however, I do not feel that most fear is rational.  If most people were able to set aside their irrational fears and make decisions based on reasoning, I think we would be better off.  

And one more thing Ichigo:

The uneducated masses will always spend beyond their means and borrow beyond their income in order to attempt to acheive their personal idea of the American Dream.  

Just 2% of Americans own over 50% of all weath in America. About 8% have little net worth.  The remaining 90% of Americans are living from paycheck to paycheck.  And most of these have negative net worth.  

It feels nice to know that if I wanted to wake up tommorrow morning and do nothing for the next ten years that I would have enough cash to live on.  It takes hard work and an attitude of saving rather than spending.  Yes, I have forgone getting that new car a few years further than I would have liked to but now I could go to any dealership and pay cash.

Lets talk about interest.  Most of Americans spend upwards of 30% of their take home income on interest.   They will never ever see these dollars again.  Imagine if they had that 30% back year after year now.

Ichigo, would you be so kind as to pass the grey poupon.

I'm not going through all the comments but I strongly agree with Ichigo's posting about when it actually, really started. The warning signs. We could see it at the manufacturing plant I worked for (dealt with new construction). I was hired in March 2006...and things started slowing down, but they were still selling- although it didn't really hit the plant until this year in 2008, when they laid off. They had a banner year previously (401k bonuses), but none the next year.

The warning signs were there, but I think you had to be in the right places to see it.

Here's hoping things get better.

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