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Buffett's huge derivatives bet proves costly

Posted Nov 20 2008, 12:48 PM by Jon Markman
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Shares of Warren Buffett's insurance holding company are on the ropes this month, plunging 30% in part because the famed investor dabbled in an area of the market he has long publicly derided: derivatives. And due to a tangled web of financial relationships, they may be taking Goldman Sachs shares down with them.

Investors are concerned about a $37-billion bet that Buffett made last year that U.S. and world equity values would be higher in 15 to 20 years than they were then, when the Dow Jones Industrials were trading around 13,000. Through his firm, Berkshire Hathaway, Buffett sold option contracts, known as "naked puts" to an undisclosed group of investors for around $4.85 billion, reportedly using Goldman as broker.

The buyers saw the puts as a type of insurance that would pay off royally if stocks fell over the next decade. They were seen by Buffett as an easy way to pocket a quick $4 billion-plus, which was booked much like an insurance premium, even though he is famous for scoffing at derivatives as "weapons of mass financial destruction."

But easy money is the worst kind. The problem is that stocks worldwide have gone downhill in a hurry, and with a lot of the sort of volatility that makes put contracts swell in value. And due to accounting rules, this has made Buffett already need to mark down a $6.7 billion loss on the trade even though the trade has another 14 years to work out.

Because of its solid-gold credit rating, Berkshire Hathaway was not required to put up collateral to make this trade. But now rumors are flying on Wall Street that the owners of the contracts have demanded that broker Goldman Sachs put up collateral for the rest of the amount due. Since the value of the trade could be enormous, the collateral demands are said to be very large, and fears that Goldman will struggle to make good on its obligation has panicked shareholders.

Indeed one theory making the rounds this week is that Buffett put $5 billion into Goldman at around $125 per share in September not as an investment but to help provide funds for the collateral. 

Of course, there are other reasons for investors to sell Berkshire shares, which are down 42% overall this year, back to 2003 levels. Many of its biggest stock holdings have plunged in value this year, including American Express, General Electric, SunTrust and Goldman itself. And like most insurance companies, it holds a lot of bonds that have plunged in value during the credit debacle.

To see how Buffett described the put contracts in his 2008 letter to investors, click here. There's little doubt that he and Berkshire will survive this mess. But for now this a blemish on his otherwise sterling record of achievement.

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Comments

 

are the puts execisable any time or just at expiration?

jim maron -- all the details are in the blog item and my last comment. this is not speculation, it's all just facts from his 2008 letter to investors and from his 2008 Q3 earnings report .... it's true he has 15 to 20 yrs for this to work out, and i sure hope that it does, however any losses incurred along the way must be accounted for under mark-to-market rules in the quarter in which they occur. as a result, if the quarter were to close today, he would have to record at least another $6 billion loss, but probably more like $10 billion.

when you consider that the rest of his business isnt doing so hot either, it's just not a good situation, probably the worst ever for the company. i suspect they'll muddle through, however the fact that this amounted to "style drift" it has disappointed a lot of his longtime shareholders.

Excuse me for asking William, but where are you getting 6.25% on CDs? I would love to get in on that action.

                Thanks,

                     Adam

Never forget that your cash in CD's is insured by the FDIC i.e. the government. That same government just borrowed another 700 Billion. The United States government might be insolvent if it has to make good on all those deposits. Where does one hide assets from erosion. Taxable land? Gold? Real Estate?

To be sure, these are mark to market losses with a longtime remaining on these derivative contracts. It is like watching a long football game where your team is down in the first 15 minutes of the game. The ultimately, I do believe markets will be higher in 14 years from now then they were in 2007. Dow will be close to 20,000 points which is roughly 5-6%/year return over the next 12 years. There is a very small chance that Berkshire will have pay at the end of that period.

Even if this bet turns out to be bad. Remember that Berkshire Hathaway is investing that 4.5 Billion dollars for the entire 14 years. That money even in this low interest rate environment will be worth more than 10 billion dollars. Remember if the inflation goes up, the pay out will be small in real dollars terms than 4.5 Billion today's dollars.

I agree that this derivative play seems counter to Warren's history and to his comments about them & Investing, but has he lost a penny on them yet?  Even if he has to put up some collateral (Berkshire seems consistently the most cost rish company I hear about), or help Goldman do so, is it so far fetched to think that it will take more than 15 to 20 years to get back to last years highs?  If it does, won't this bet be the least of his and our worries?  What am I missing?

Actually this is not the first time that Warren has screwed up royally.  When silver was at it's bottom a few years ago he bought a very large position in physical silver and moved it to the UK.  Then he sold it a couple years ago and made a small profit.  If he had waited until about 2012 to sell it he could have made the big loss from derivatives back and a whole lot more.

I noticed the year of the Nasdaq bubble burst Berkshire did not beat the S&P. If we are having a credit crisis unprecedented in all of history and with derivatives worldwide totaling over $600 trillion, then Buffett has no control, power or solution to these planet killers. I wonder if he's bought any GOLD for insurance.

As I understand, the maximum exposure is $37bn if all 5 stock indexes (I think they are S&P, EURO STOXX 50, FTSE and maybe one of the DAX goes to zero. If all these companies are bust, so will all the suppliers in the chain, so we are looking at, err..unemployment of 50%?  At that stage, one does not need CD, one needs guns (and lots of bullets as arm factories are probably shut by then) and can food. (doubt anyone will trade gun for gold when that happen)

Berkshire is also a collection of over 80 best of the class business..

No wonder at all !!!

When I first read that news of Buffet buying a stake in Goldman Sachs, I scratched my head, was somewhat puzzled and after a lot of thinking I reached some conclusion. Unlike most Buffet fans I did not buy the "value investing" theory and concluded two possibilities:

1. Either its an example of "regression to the mean" in case of Waren Buffet the great OR

2. Its the age factor.

Please read this post on my blog indexviews.blogspot.com/.../manipulated-markets-are-dangerous.html for more details.

Reading this blog (the one I am commenting on), I feel vindicated.

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