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Posted Nov 04 2008, 05:47 AM by Jon Markman
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Bullish investors were excited this week to learn that there's been a surge in commercial and industrial loans at banks. The effort has been taken to mean that credit is finally thawing out. Yet one independent credit analyst is out this week with analysis that suggests that the surge of loans is actually a huge negative. The reason: They're involuntary, and will lead to cuts in other type of lending.

The analyst, Brian Reynolds, notes that C&I loans surged in a similar manner in mid-2000 and August 2007. And in both cases the effort  turned out badly because, like today, it was triggered by a freeze at money markets funds.

Reynolds points out that money market funds have for years been the biggest buyers of commercial paper, which supply working capital to corporations. When investors pulled out of money markets earlier in the fall due to fears they were too risky, companies have had to look elsewhere for credit. So they drew down their standby lines of credit at banks just to remain solvent and pay the bills.

Reynolds reports that these are "horrible, risky, low-profit loans" for banks because they were granted during the bull market when credit was cheap. Banks only took a nominal fee for creating the lines, and their pre-determined terms mean they are being issued at low-margin spreads at a time when loan costs otherwise are massively higher. He says that a bank writing these lines during a bull market is like an investor selling naked puts on stock in a bull market at a time of low volatility: It produces a little income while times are good, but a bear market can be disastrous.

Since banks are not making money on these loans, they are believed to be compensating by reducing other forms of lending just as they did in years past. They will cut back on auto loans, student loans, home equity loans and hedge fund loans.

Now if the big banks' new owners -- the government -- decides to come in and force them to make more loans that are uneconomic just for the sake of political correctness, you can just imagine what will result: Yes, banks could be in more danger next year than they were before the bailout.

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Government to screw up the economy surely you jest

It is frightening as Americans go to the polls how woefully igrnorant most are about our economy and the history of the current crisis which, by the way, is rooted in decades of silliness by the fatuitous left wing of Congress joined by

Democrat presidents who began forcing banks decades ago to make sub-quality loans which were then sold to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.  In this election President Bush and the Republicans will be taking responsibillity for a financial mess over which they had little influence.  Most of the government actions allready taken and proposed will create more harm than good and solve no problems.

It make as much sense to bail out home buyers who made stupid decisions as it would to bail out investors who have lost trillions of dollars because of the market chaos created by the subprime fiasco.  

Remember that old saying, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you"?  Well back in 1990, the Government seized the Mustang Ranch brothel  in Nevada for tax evasion and tried to run it. They failed and it closed. Now we are trusting the economy of our country to a bunch of bureaucrats who couldn't make money running a whore house and selling booze?

Mike, you have just made my day. I went to the Mustang Ranch, 10 miles east of Reno off of I-80 at the Mustang exit and then followed the red arrows painted on the roadside rocks,  back in 1979 and had the time of my life for $35.00 (actually I spent $105.00 as I indulged in 2nds and 3rds). When I went back and the gov't was running the place, the costs had skyrocketed to $150 for 1st's, the broads were ugly and the booze was watered down. I passed on that ocassion. Thanks for the memories of my youth. As for the bailout, it's a sham. Watch, nearly every single dollar will go where it wasn't intended to go. It's the Mustang Ranch all over again. we're screwed but not enjoying it as much.

We can fix all the problems with our country and it's resession . My idea is to give every working person (1) million dollars . This would only cost the goverment 200 million or so and we would be well on our way to the greatest comeback of them all . Do the math because the goverment is sending good money to bad companies to do nothing!!!

You can't fix anything by writing a check for a 100 dollars and making a deposit of $.10 or less.

                            Ray B.

Hey Ray -

Isn't that a nifty idea!  Curious what I'd do with my mil???

Pay off bills - Banks would sure be happy without any worry of loss..

Pay off the student loan - Sallie should be happy...

Pay for (in cash) the house we're currently building plus do a few extras (like the permanent generator, higher energy efficiency, etc) - builder would be happy... and so would the extra vendors...

Keep my kids in private school (currerntly costing $7k each) - so they're educated enough to make 'good' decisions - the schools would love the money...

Buy another vehicle - the US car dealership would be happy...

Buy another life insurance policy (in case we don't make it through this mess) - the insurers would be happy...

hmmm - I could go on, but I have I done my part in responsibly redistributing money into this mess of an economy??

smiles,

ange  

got to love that idea

Given- Poor people are poor because they spend their money

Given-Rich people are rich because they save their money

Therefore- give all the money to the poor and we will spend it on the products which create profits for the rich the rich people still get their cut they just have to work a little for it instead of having uncle sam hand it to them directly!!! and the world is a little better place for us poor people!!!

During the stock market crash of 1929 and the years that followed many americans lost their jobs and their homes. My great grandfather was able to hold on the family farm during the depression my grandfather great uncle and great grandfather did every odd job possible my great gradmother took in sewing and butchered chickens for extra money sold eggs what ever it took they did. Great grandfather went to the bank the local bank where you have a face and name and explained he could pay some every month on the mortgage but not all. When the economy bounced back he was able to pay off the farm. We did the same thing recently the bank said our money or we start foreclosure proceedings. $1700.00 over $1700.00 the bank was going to foreclose on our home my husbands home of 19years. Someone explain how this bail out money is going to save anyone or help anyone. I guess I could divorce my husband give up the business become a flatbacker and pop out 3 or 4 more babies by different daddies and ask for my goverment check at least then I would have affordable health insurance tax payer will pay for it. Kids would be fed tax payer would pay for it, kids would have clothes and shelter the tax payer would pay for it.

Hey Ray, Angel and Orio...  That deal would cost $150 TRILLION - WAAyyyy more than the $700 Bil. .  But if the $700 Billion was averaged among the 150 million +- taxpayers it would be $4,666 each.  But I agree that THAT - would do far more to stimulate the economy.  Oh, ... p.s. - The National Debt is just under $11 Trillion so by the time you read this it probably will be about there.  So, if you consider that in addition to the taxes you (we all) CURRENTLY pay, plus all our other bills, the one bill no-one takes into account is their individual avg portion of the National Debt (which DOES have to be paid by the way).  Do ya know what your portion of that is???  Try $73,333 !  That's you, me, whoever else reads this that's a taxpayer, the pizza delivery guy, taxi driver, grocery check-out clerk, garbage man etc. etc...  Now, if you thought THAT was the rub, check THIS out....  Do YOU have your $73,333 ???  How 'bout the person sitting next to you?  No?  How 'bout the rest of the 150 MILLION taxpayers that are in this country at any given time..?  No?  Don't think most have theirs either?  That would be a smart guess cuz the average net worth of each taxpayer, when considering their credit debt (non-mortgage) is in the negative (ie. insufficient savings).  Well, if you,me and everybody else doesn't pay THEIR portion before we leave this earth, then we pass it on to our kids - all the while they're growing up to become taxpayers - the interest on the National Debt is continuing to compound.  So, we're leaving a nice legacy to our kids.  They'll have to work far harder to have much, much less.  And just like the $50 Bil Bernie Madoff scam, I can't help but think this is too.  So, if you have kids... give 'em a kiss goodnight cuz we're gonna leave 'em screwed.  If you don't have kids (yet), then be sure to give 'em a kiss when you do.  I feel sorry for how we're leaving our next generation.  And you can bet that it all somehow was spawned from greed. Very sad, but very true too.  Take care.

Hey, Orio... hmmm

::Therefore- give all the money to the poor and we will spend it on the products which create profits for the rich the rich people still get their cut they just have to work a little for it instead of having uncle sam hand it to them directly!!! and the world is a little better place for us poor people!!!

Since when does the gov't give rich people anything?  I believe they worked for it, and the Gov't in fact then gives it "free" to the non-working, non-ambitious, non-accountable, non...   You get the idea...  When will you be accountable for your actions?  

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