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$50 billion of bailout going to employee bonuses

Posted Oct 31 2008, 07:30 AM by Andrew Horowitz
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As if the economic bailout by U.S. taxpayers isn't enough to make you sick to your stomach, new information has come to light that several banks are planning to pay billions of dollars in year-end bonuses from the bailout funds they received.  Investigations are beginning into the nine banks that took in the first $125 billion -- the same $125 billion that was supposed to be used to unclog the credit system which was preventing banks from providing much needed funds for individuals and businesses.

There are many feathers in a ruffle over this and New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo and several congressmen are furious that over $20 billion has already been earmarked as bonus funds for management and employees. Unbelievably, that is just the estimates from Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and Merrill Lynch. There are six more banks that are also working on similar heists.

Here is their rationale for using that money: It is reported that the financial industry pays base salaries in the range of $80,000 to $600,000 and apparently that is simply not enough to keep some of the best and brightest working to keep their companies profitable. It seems that if they were paid only this meager amount, the company would risk mass defections. That would be a real problem...or would it?

Maybe it is time to peg annual bonuses to something meaningful like profitability. As I recall, not only are these the firms that have been losing money (as is evident by the need for a massive multi-billion dollar bailout) but they have also been shown to be the creators of securitization, derivatives, sub-prime mortgages and other toxic credit that is the root cause of this historic global economic catastrophe!

Maybe I am being too harsh? Perhaps management is entitled to hundreds of millions in bonuses for the hard work they do, day in and day out. You have to feel sorry for them as most have had to give up their private jets and instead fly in a cramped seat in first class. Surely most will now have to wonder how they will deal with the excess workload as they have had to fire thousands of employees. Also, they will need to use a good chunk of that money to rebuild their retirement plans as much of their wealth was tied up in their company's stock which, under their leadership, could be down more than 60% just this year alone.

What do you think?

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Andrew Horowitz is a money manager and the founder of Horowitz & Company. He is also the author of the bestselling book, The Disciplined Investor . Check out his latest investment idea or listen in as he hosts, The Disciplined Investor Podcast.

 

 

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I find this OUTRAGOUS, however, not at all surprizing.  The Wall Street metality is that of people "out of touch" with reality.  These "Entiltlements" are expected by these people for exactly that reason - they are not like us.  They don't dress like us, they don't eat like us and they live in a world were the willingness to commit unethical and immoral wrongs against "lesser" beings is a "Cost of Doing Business"!

If congress really wanted to, they could reverse the bank stock plan and make the offending banks pay back the $billion of tax payers money. The question is why only rhetoric and no action from congress before the banks spend all of it on themselves. Hmmmmm, wonder if there's a connection here somehere between the congress and banks.

The ones who designed the bail out plan knew this was going to happen. This just confirms that in the near future that our United States will be just like the middle east. The oil rich and the dirt poor...

This is so ricduclous is could be a hollywood movie.  Our government is in

such a sad state to let this happen.  Why is it people are  being rewarded for

doing a terrible job.  I get high marks every year on my yearly evalution and I

can barely get a 3% raise, last year no raise at all.  And a bonus is out of the

question. But, these CEOS can ruin the economy and walk away will millions.

What a sad state of affairs.

There is only one person to blame, Bush allowed this bail out and congress approved it, people forget how all this went down???  Greed has taken over this country and nobody has the back bone to stand up. This admistration has runied this country, what happened to for the people by the people. This bail out is only for the rich, any person who got caught in any other bussiness would have gone to prision , and through the key away, wake up America.

For a country who is suppose to have the best political system going we are doing a horrible job.  We will not need an outside source to ruin us we are doing it to ourselves.  If Washington allows this then they should all be replaced.  Limit terms that's what is needed  Everyone needs to get to their Congressman and Senators and tell them that there days in office should be limited. Also line item vetos to get rid of the pork.  Its all about doing favors for each other and the heck with the American people who foot the bill.  Understand its easy to point the finger at the President and say its all his falt.  How about the approx. 485 people in congress and approx. 100 in Senate.  They allowed this to go on and if you read the news a good number profited from this mess we are in.   Final comment should we really be worried if these individuals jumping ship because they may not get paid what they think they are worth.  Turns out they weren't worth anything or we would not be in this mess.

Actually, a large amount of these bonuses ARE tied to profitability. Most employees work for a DIVISION of a company and are paid bonuses according to the profit they specifically generate for that division, or for how much that division generates as a group. Very few bonuses are based on how well the firm did as a whole. In this case, most of the losses came only from one division and all of the others generated a profit. Failure to pay the bonuses, therefore, means that all of these employees who DID generate a profit, will leave for other firms if they are punished for what a handful of others did.

If it wasn't for the banks greed and deregulation we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with. I am a small business owner and am suffering horribly, my clients depend on borrowing money to buy my products but they cannot get loans right now due to falling home values and the credit mess. Therefore, I may lose my house and my business because of all this greed and deregulation. Do I feel bad that some bank CEO won't see his $1 million bonus at year end! HELL NO! As someone else put it "Off with there heads!"

This is no surprise.  Why do you think the majority of Americans were against the bailout to begin with?  Because the money is not being used to bailout the people who need to be bailed out.  It is going to a bunch of Wall Street people who landed us in this mess to begin with.  If the government cannot see this but the people can, we are in bigger trouble than we think.

While I do find this sickening I don't find it surprising as the madness seems to continue.  Question is, how do we stop it?

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