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Recession to end in June?

Posted Oct 27 2008, 04:40 PM by Anthony Mirhaydari
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Things are looking pretty bleak right now. Two wars, a bear market, rising unemployment, falling home prices and even the cold weather are all weighing on our collective consciousness. Even our popular culture is beginning to reflect this darkening worldview.

Still, like the bedtime stories we read our children, a happy ending awaits. According to historical analysis by Merrill Lynch economist David Rosenberg, next June should mark the end of this painful consumer-led recession.

Here's why.

A normal recession can be expected to last 18 months, according to Rosenberg. Assuming this recession started in January, we arrive at the June 2009 end date. In comparison, a typical post-war recession would last 10 months, which means a recovery would be underway right about now.

Traditionally, economists like to focus on the years following World War II. Besides better quality data, the economy of the post-war period was in many ways structurally different from that of the pre-war years. Roosevelt's New Deal policies altered the way the economy responded to changes in growth, which helped moderate the vagaries of the business cycle.

But, as Rosenberg puts it, "we are witnessing unprecedented stuff happen." Housing starts are at a 17-year low, while the University of Michigan's home-buying conditions index has fallen to a 28-year low. Industrial production is suffering from its worst decline in 34 years. Consumer sentiment is falling at the fastest pace since measurement started in 1952. You get the idea.

The problem is that the two pillars of the last 60 years of economic growth are beginning to crumble: Baby boomer's propensity to indulge in credit, and Wall Street's ability to extend it. Given all this, instead of just looking at the 10 post-1945 business cycles, Rosenberg took stock of the 32 dating back to 1855 -- the year Franklin Pierce was president, and six years before the outbreak of the Civil War.

There are a couple more things you should keep in mind. First, the stock market tends to bottom about four months prior to the end of a recession. By this metric, the stock market should bottom around Valentine's Day. Second, the strongest predictor of recessions ending is when the official referee -- the National Bureau of Economic Research -- makes its recession call. On average, a recession will end within a month of it being recognized.

Disclosure: I don’t own or control shares in any of the companies mentioned. I can be contacted at anthony.mirhaydari@live.com

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Comments

 

Boys and girls!....don't make it hurt worse by fighting it!  Just step up to the couch and take it like the Americans you are, cause it look like ol' Barney and his buddies are going to rule the roost.  Take heart!  If not them then it would be the McCainittes taking their shot.  If you haven't noticed YET!...they're all a bunch of _______(fill in the blank).  Most of them have been in office for 20 years or more and nothing has changed, been resoved or gotten fixed.  You will notice how they seem to leave wealthier than when they got there.  Oh, and get used to paying the bill for illegals.  Pelousiites and Reedenites are going to shove that down your throats.  Well, boys and girls...have a nice day and don't vote...surprise the ____(fill in the blank) out of them.

I read blog after blog,some I agree with other things like taking money I earned with a honest day of work to bring up the standard of liveing for one who made bad choices in life (opressed?pleeeeas not since NAACP) P____s me off.

Democrats and Republicans alike devided the nation years ago between black and white.Remember the saying "United we stand,devided we fall".It's long been a tool for the gov to controll more and more of our lives and play one again the other for a given elected seat in office.If the gov would have stayed the heck out of our lives and let the free market decide how every thing is gonna fall in place think what MIGHT have happened....

We wouldnt have as big a problem with welfare because of politicians handing out promises of a bigger check to get elected.What do I mean by that?

Think about it,you have generations of people handed money for every child popped out from between their legs.Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the more kids in your house means a bigger check in the mail.So now we have  kids having kids and it's ok because the government will pay your food bill and health.

As the population of carrer welfare recepiants grow,so must the government

grow.Now with all these kids being born for the wrong reason,they are raised on the street instead of a loving home,hince crime and more unwanted children for an already over loaded system....this is just ONE example on how government has munipilated the masses for it's own self growth.

Our founding father NEVER meant for the federal goverment to grow this out of controll

Im just a machinist,not a politician or educated in buisness man..but I know if the right leader come about,he or she could lead the common folk to MAKE THE GOVERNMENT WOrK FOR OUR INTEREST again.

So no matter who gets elected,who here is gonna lead us to stand up and tell the politicians "now this is how it's gonna be so says the people"?

I totally agree with geno!!  the one behind the desk is always trying to find falt with the one that's out bustin' his hump doing his best just to put food on the table and pay his bosses paycheck still he always gets the put down no matter how hard he is trying to make it on the chicken feed he's being dealt out.  Yet it always is the comsumers falt.  NO MATTER WHAT; or HOW HARD HE WORKS!!! It's the working mans falt!!!  AMAZING HAH!!!        

look at this way, if you buy an index fund (for example) at around dow 7000, which we should see around jan5...and it goes to zero, your fiat currency is gonna be worthless anyway even if you would have kept it in a coffee can....it's only value might me measured in BTU's (how much heat does a $20 bill generate when burned to heat your house?).

As many people wishing they shoulda and coulda today, there will be 5x's as many in 24 months saying they could have bought Wells Fargo at 23...P/E ratios are in single digits at so many quality issues....the only caveat is to be sure the co has cash on hand, and doesn't need access to credit...those 2 conditions satisfied....buy, and shut off CNBC for 6 mos and go tend bar to pay the elec bill...and you'll come back to a nice number on today's 201(k)....else, if is doesn't, it's gonna be anarchy anyway, so there really isn't that much risk if you can buy and forget a while....

All you 30 somethings....forget the 6.50 cup of coffee.  Buy as many shares of GM...the coffee goes thru you in 3 hours...if GM last a little longer, you're ahead of the game....if it lasts a lot longer, years from now, you'll be able to drop a buck in my cup....I'll be in front of the Winn Dixie...  

My parents grew up during the depression...I heard the stories at the dinner table...We are an arrogant lot for drawing that comparison to what those people endured, with a plasma TV under each arm...

Hey!!

Not to be a show -off or anything but alot of crying could be avoided by you americans if you just KNEW how to save money. I got 20K saved. YES!!!! SAVED!!! Because I don't go buying everything top-of-the-line. Look what the poor have to be satisfied with; some can barely afford to keep thier feet covered with shoes....and US!!!! We damn ugly selfish people want EVERYTHING, to nice houses and new cars and 100-inch TVS!!!! Quit your whining and fold your money and put it back in your pockets!!!

Well, I wish this economic crisis is all political shows but the numbers that I read does not tell me so. That's the worst part. America is in debt. Europe is in debt... so where can India and China sell? When people are totally focused on lavish lifestyle and lose track of their checkbook don't they usually in serious debt. Then they have to sell everything they have to debtors. Now, if government is in the same bad shape, what are they going to sell? More importantly, if Europe is in debt and America is in debt... who do we owe? I tried to see someone having a party over our downfall and looked around. There is no country having a ball. So it must be individuals, right? Who are they? If this is happening all over the world, can it be systemetic result  of organized plan  or random result of human greed and stupidity? I think about these questions here and there and... just wonder where we are all tunmbling into. Well, nothing we can do now except try to focus on what's in front of us tomorrow. Pray and keep on living the honest life God advised me to live. Let me know if you do know the answer to my questions, though. That's will be cool.

WE THE PEOPLE, have we forgotten.   The problem as I see it is that "we" have done more than just lost control of our government and economy.  We have forgotten more than just our past and where we came from.  WE have forgotten that "WE" are the solution to our own problem.  American have to take control of our own lives and issues and quit expecting that someone else can or is supposed to fix it.  This means starting within our own homes.  Spend within our means, control our discretionary spending, plan for the future like our forefathers planned, make our families/friends our priorities.  As we do these things we remove the ability of media, and commercial powers to fleece us of our hard earned money.  As we remove the power from these irresponsible, greed driven entities the government will fall back in line.  Why would the government do this?  Because we are the government, they are a representation of US.  

I don't feel as though this is just beginning of the recession.  I truly beleive that because the banking industry lowered the standards for individuals to take out loans that they truly couldn't affored to pay back at the time of being approved, it weakend our economy.  Allowing companies to take more monies out on credit because they were crumbling from taking too many luxury trips, etc. shouldn't have ever been approved in the first place.

Going to war has also totally weakend our economy.  We are in such a recession, I don't believe that it will be any time soon that we recoup from this deficet.

This is an interesting article. It's the day be for Valentines Day, February, 2009 and the stock market is at an all-time low. Maybe....

Well, I think unemployment rate and consumer effect will kick in later this year, and recession won't be gone until early next year 2010. Here is some more info:

www.wealthalchemist.com/.../wall-street-ge-news-economy-rebound

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