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Bad car loans joined by car and credit card problems

Posted Oct 01 2008, 06:26 AM by Douglas McIntyre
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While the market was busy looking at all of those "For Sale" signs around most neighborhoods, it forgot that people also put three or four expensive cars in their driveways and bought $5,000 home entertainment centers.

Someone has to pay for all of that hardware, but it is not going to be the people who bought it. They are broke and jobless. The repo men are being sent from car loan companies and Best Buy to get the stuff back. Unfortunately, used cars and consumer electronics have not held their value.

MarketWatch reports that "According to Innovest StrategicValue Advisors, banks will charge off $18.6 billion in delinquent credit-card accounts in the first quarter of 2009 and $96 billion in all of 2009, more than double the research firm's forecast for all of this year." That may be a drop in the bucket compared with what banks and operations like GMAC will be hit with from bad car loans.

The problem is not as simple as bad loans. These credits were securitized and chopped into tranches the same way that mortgages were. In other words, there is another wave of toxic securities emerging. The $700 billion government bailout almost certainly does not take into account a future catastrophic failure of a set of assets which are not tied directly to the housing market.

The IMF says that losses related to mortgages will cause $1 trillion of write-offs spread across the world's banks. Car and credit card derivatives may not represent as big a pool, but, like toxic paper tied to mortgages, no one knew how great the problem was until it was one top of them.

The credit default disaster has another chapter coming next year.

Top Stocks blogger Douglas A. McIntyre is an editor at 24/7 Wall St.

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Phil, only whiite people say Iraq owes America anything. How about if Iraq said in 2003 they were tired of the way America treated it's workers and middle class and came over here and flattened all of our infrastructure and executed our leaders. Could they then hand us a bill? You wouldn't say this if they did this to England or any EU country, either. Talk like that just makes it clear we just don't get it, and that's why we're getting what's coming to us.

Tyrone Etheridge is correct, and massive tax evasion is probably the best way to do it. It's a libertarian non-violent method, and people would learn some real self sufficiency and personal and social responsibility in the absence of a government that doesn't serve the people's interests anyway. Community police/militias, schools that work, etc. We're gonna be on our own here in a minute anyway. Why keep throwing good money after bad?

If i had bought a Yukon seven months ago, I would have known then that it was not going to hold any value. The government has nothing to do with your poor shopping habits.Also,fifty thousand miles really costs about what your 10k depreciation amounts to.The people that messed up,by and large,are us. We're the ones that borrowed heavily on our houses and even our cars.We're the selfish ones that wanted to have everything at any cost.I am never going to blame the government for what we the people did by our own greed.Having said that,I do not think the government's solution is going to succeed as well as they would like.We are going into a depression that we have all helped to create.Let's all quit blaming others,and get busy looking for real selutions.

The truth about car sales - for the most part, car salesmen are good guys doing a tough job. Of course you are going to have your deceitful dealerships (Douglas Nissan, Gunderson Chevrolet) but most guys in the car business are just putting up with the lame hours and whiny customers to make an above average living. The days of the $20k a month Desk Manager or Finance Manager job is over, LONG over. The car business is spinning out of control and I truly believe the worst is yet ahead.

BOUGHT A YUKON 7 MONTHS AGO FOR $25K AND NOW RESELL IS AT $15K....

$10K DROP IN VALUE IN 7 MONTHS AND IT ONLY HAS 50K MILES ON IT....

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uuh corey---blue book has more play here than any politicians. + 50,000 on it already ain't helping either.

anyway,when can WE STOP paying our bills and get a bailout too ?

so why are the  people that work hard,save and pay all their bills on time...and lived by the golden rule :don't got,do without-use it up,wear it out- and truly did without,EXPECTED to bailout fraud street by the politicians ?

We're not feeling anything beyond a massive frustration and anger at this.

Cars like Honda Civics and other economical ULEV vehicles are being sold above value in many markets.  The only good thing to come off all of this is that we are getting the large SUV's that destroy our environment off of the road.  bad-car-credit-loan-people.blogspot.com

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