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Bad car loans joined by car and credit card problems

Posted Oct 01 2008, 06:26 AM by Douglas McIntyre
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While the market was busy looking at all of those "For Sale" signs around most neighborhoods, it forgot that people also put three or four expensive cars in their driveways and bought $5,000 home entertainment centers.

Someone has to pay for all of that hardware, but it is not going to be the people who bought it. They are broke and jobless. The repo men are being sent from car loan companies and Best Buy to get the stuff back. Unfortunately, used cars and consumer electronics have not held their value.

MarketWatch reports that "According to Innovest StrategicValue Advisors, banks will charge off $18.6 billion in delinquent credit-card accounts in the first quarter of 2009 and $96 billion in all of 2009, more than double the research firm's forecast for all of this year." That may be a drop in the bucket compared with what banks and operations like GMAC will be hit with from bad car loans.

The problem is not as simple as bad loans. These credits were securitized and chopped into tranches the same way that mortgages were. In other words, there is another wave of toxic securities emerging. The $700 billion government bailout almost certainly does not take into account a future catastrophic failure of a set of assets which are not tied directly to the housing market.

The IMF says that losses related to mortgages will cause $1 trillion of write-offs spread across the world's banks. Car and credit card derivatives may not represent as big a pool, but, like toxic paper tied to mortgages, no one knew how great the problem was until it was one top of them.

The credit default disaster has another chapter coming next year.

Top Stocks blogger Douglas A. McIntyre is an editor at 24/7 Wall St.

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I BOUGHT A YUKON 7 MONTHS AGO FOR $25K AND NOW RESELL IS AT $15K....

$10K DROP IN VALUE IN 7 MONTHS AND IT ONLY HAS 50K MILES ON IT....

WHERE IS THE LEADERSHIP THESE DAYS GONE TO. ARE THE POLITICIANS TO WORRIED ABOUT SAYING THE WRONG THING OR WHAT....I HOPE OUR CHILDREN DO NOT HAVE THE PROBLEMS WE DO THESE DAYS....HAS ANYBODY READ FDR'S 1933 INAUGRAL SPEECH...TODAYS LEADERS SHOULD REALLY LOOK INTO THAT SPEECH!!!!!

Wall Street has no parallel in history when it comes to greed. This is how empires and republics collapse.

In this economic system privilege classes are allowed to legally steal from the working class and the government almost at will.

We allowed these Wall Street firms to insurance all of these mortgages with paper instead of real money. These are reckless practices that fall under criminal behavior.

The real regulation is to stop this practice of devising derivatives and back-up mortgages with real money period.

We should not bail them out. Nobody is bailing me out and I still have to pay these outrageous bank fees and high interest rates without receiving real compensation for my bank accounts.

I think if the government bailout goes on to pass we should put a fix rate on mortages but also people that has this deal will have their pay checks garished for the payments.

why can't bank have fix rate on credit cards form the bail out

grow up!  stay in your cars, stay in your homes and pay them off! there is no reason to trade in your car every year or move up every 3-5 yrs. the markets have always been this way and today is no different. fiscal responsibility begins with you.

If you want a new car, and have to run the loan 84-96 months to afford the payment, you can't afford the car! I am amazed at the immediate gratification of our society. Whatever happened to people putting down payments on their house or car purchases? Individuals are responsible for their financial decisions, not all of the taxpayers.

Thanks Howard L

DEMOCRACY= allowing the rich to steal from the poor and then when they get caught with thier hand in the cookie jar asking for forgivness with no consequences.

American and forgin car makers have priced me out of buying a new car back in 1999. That was the last time I've bought a new car. I can not see myself paying that much for a new car. In 1976 I could by a new truck for 12k now the same truck new is 36k +. Plus the 16-19% intrest, NO WAY

Just like the housing, people bought what they can't afford. Slick talking salesman. No one reads the small print now at days?

What is wrong with an insurance program rather than a straight bailout.  Those investing would have to stick it out until the loans either paid off or were foreclosed and the property sold.  They will suffer some loss, but they went into these deals with full knowledge of the risk.

Why are we being stuck with having to bail them out?  I have always worked under the principal that the higher the risk the higher the return.  Now the government is wanting to do away with that and "save" the rich.  Sorry it does not float with me.

No congressman with any investment in MBS with sub-prime mortgage should be allowed to vote on this issue.  No congressman with ties to any of the mortgage issuers should be allowed to vote.  

There should be a full disclosure of every investment the congressmen have so that when they come around for re-election we know where the blame lies.

Don't lay all of this on the current administration.  This all started back in 1993.

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