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Getting aroud the 'crackdown' on exec pay

Posted Sep 30 2008, 02:48 PM by admin
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This post is by MSN Money columnist Michael Brush:

Earlier this week House leaders boasted that they added tough measures to the latest version of the financial rescue plan to crack down on excessive pay for executives.

But once again, it looks more like a public relations blitz designed to please the constituents back home rather than a real reform that would have a true impact. (See a related post here.)

Let’s take two of the provisions that got talked up the most: a 20% tax on golden parachutes for execs at any banks that get bailed out and the elimination of corporate tax deductions on executive base pay over $500,000 a year.

That sounds great. But it’s pretty much worthless because banks can still do what they have always done here. They can still pick up the tab on that extra 20% tax on golden parachutes. And they can still simply choose to take the hit on the taxes on base pay over $500,000.

Banks -- like many companies -- have routinely done both of these things for years. There’s no reason to think they wouldn’t continue to get around the so called “limits” in the latest bail out proposal which is likely to get voted on again later this week.

There are other serious shortcomings with measures designed to supposedly cap executive pay at banks getting bail outs, says Paul Hodgson, an executive comp expert at the Corporate Library. He sums up the problems in a report released Tuesday called “Executive Compensation Reform by the Back Door: Pay Provisions in the Bailout Plan.”

Lawmakers, for example, say measures in the bill would limit incentive pay that encourage excessive risk-taking, and even impose outright bans on golden parachutes.

While those provisions are in there, they would only apply to banks in which the government takes an equity stake. “As soon as the stake has been sold, these limits can safely be ignored,” says Hodgson.

Plus, there’s little or no definition of the type of "excessive risk" pay that would be limited, or the limits themselves, says Hodgson.

Another feature, a "claw back" provision forcing executives to cough up incentive pay earned when accounting fraud puffed up earnings, are already covered in the Sarbanes Oxley Act.

What’s worse, lawmakers caved in to opposition to the pay crack down, in two key ways.

Earlier working versions of the House bill give shareholders access to the corporate proxy machinery. That would have made it a lot cheaper for them to run their own candidates for board seats -- candidates who might be better watchdogs over executive pay. That’s now gone. So is a provision that would have given shareholders "say on pay" votes at banks getting bail outs.

The pity here is that by removing these provisions, lawmakers took away two measures that might have started to get at the root issue here: Executives at banks had perverse pay incentives that encouraged them to pump up earnings by doing risky things like writing too many subprime mortgages, or owning debt instruments backed by those risky mortgages.

"There should be no doubt that executive compensation lies at the root of the current financial crisis," says Hodgson. But by taking out these two measures, the House has removed the teeth from pay reform in the bail out bill and replaced them with "a set of very ill-fitting dentures."

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So. let me get this straight. If there is a financial genius out there ( a young Warren Buffet as an example) who could help one of these troubled banks with this mess, you don't want the banks to be able to pay him?  And you want the smartest people at these banks to leave and go to work somewhere else because of compensation limits on the troubled banks?  does that really make sense? Shouldn't the boards and the stockholders decide how to pay their executives? don't we want to encourage troubled banks to participate in this program designed to incease liquidity in the system?

I just was at a doctors office and Time magazine August 1st was devoted to these economic problems.  All the same players knew back then that something needed to be done but wait until now to create panic and confusion.  No bill should be passed without firing everyone who sat on their hands, including Paulson.  Those of us who are barely getting by should get a break not the millionares.  

I think that giving americans the money to pay off their bills and get a decent car that is safe to drive , is a great idea.The poor are too poor to bail out the banks for selling balloon accounts to the people ,then raising the interest rates to the level that we can't pay for it much less a car or even a vacation! It's time to cut all the pay raises that the people didn't vote on. Lower the pay scale all the way from the president down too people $15,000.00 - $20.000. That way the economy will level off. bills will get paid. and most importantly, get these d-- credit card companys to lower their finance rates so people can pay them off. Their are too many loop holes for credit card companies to shank the people. Prices of items are too high, food too high, insurance too high, medical too -too high,rent too high, judges voting themselves a $15,000 pay raise . How did they do that? Congress and the house voting themselves a pay raise without the American people having a say in it? America is fed up. We don't believe what business are saying because they are making far too much profit leaving the lower class as the rich put it, not being able to buy the neccessities of live.Companies making their workers work seven days aweek and threaten them  if they don't with job loss.

If so many people object to the way things are going, why don't they speak up and make a change. This isn't anything new. The politicians, be they Republicans or Democrats, take care of themselves at the expense of the taxpayers, as the bail out will prove. Would they be as likely to funnel our money into this fiasco if they had no stocks invested with the companies or subsidiaries? I think not. Why does the hardworking taxpayer expect to receive anything for their contibutions? We see, hear, and read daily of the crimes and injustices of elected officials and yet they continue to hold office, vote for more perks for themselves, and laugh at all the people that are supporting them.

Revolution? Perhaps. Justice? Most definately.

They proposed to screen school students to see "what" makes someone a criminal. So, does this mean that because you are a poor slob and in jail, you are worse than those that bilked millions of people in upper class scams? What a joke, please explain what a pyramid plan is...I never understood why someone would give someone else hard earned money to invest... go to the casinos. Have a ball, broke is broke...ever since the euro dollar poked its ugly head out, you may as well burn the bucks you have left, not gonna be good for anything else. pk

Although  I don't like the idea of government dictating how much a company can pay its employees, I do think there should be a ban on any bonus pay connected to stock price, as well as the awarding of stock options.  A company's stock price is not necessarily the best indication of that company's actual strength and, as we have seen all too often, can be manipulated to boost executive pay.  If an exec has confidence in the company, then buy the stock on your own.  

I had to laugh at the statement that it was dangerous to limit pay too much because doing so would discourage the top talent.  It's the top talent that have been in charge all this time and helped create this mess.  I'm not the brightest guy in town, but I knew four years ago, when real estate values were skyrocketing in our area, that the bubble had to burst - I'm just surprised it took this long.  

As recently as this May, when we bought a home in Northern Virginia, we had realtors, mortgage brokers, bankers, and well meaning friends all trying to convince us to get one of those adjustable rate, no money down, interest only, pay what you want, kind of mortgage that would let us buy a bigger place.   We smiled and  bought a modest home with a plain vanilla 30 year fixed rate.

There is a lot of blame to go all around.  Too many folks have insisted on having it all now and worrying about paying for it later.  When all this clears up - and it will - the best thing that could come out of it would be to make thrift and financial responsiblility fashionable again.

It's comforting to know that a giant 700 billion problem kept hidden by the bullet proof wealthy executives only required a few days to workup a bailout plan by the bullet proof wealthy politicians.  All they say is the plan needs to pass for the good of America.  Could you be a little more specific?  For 700 billion, please mail a copy of the 110 page plan to every household in America for review, then let's take a vote on it.

To Tom,

Whoa boy. I don't think Serial killers are the answer to our financial problems.  I can't speak for you but we all are a little to blame for this mess.  Far to many people had been cashing out their equity on houses on a yearly basis so that they could outspend their incomes.  This may be a lessor degree of greed, but it is the 20 million homeowners that are upside down on their Mortgages that caused the mortgage debacle.  Granted some just bought at the wrong time but most of it was middleclass people that took advantage of the specialty financing designed to help the lower class get into homes by cashing out their equity and getting over their heads in bigger and better homes and bigger and better automobiles.

I bought my home on singer Island in West Palm Beach, FL for $120K, in April 2001, and financed $90K.  Because it was on an island, it skyrocked to a unrealistic value of $750K in '06" (all land value, house is 1200 SF and 50yrs old, but a block from the ocean).  It is now worth between $275k and $320k depending on the day.  My mortgage is down to $77K and I have $200K in equity.  Most of my neighbors, however, remodeled, did buildouts on the homes, speculated by razing and rebuilding 3000-4000 sq homes on tiny land locked sites, or bought in '05' or '06' when the value was nuts, and they are all hundreds of thousands of dollars upside down in their homes or turning them back to the bank.  Was that the CEO of a banks fault? These were people making 75K a year driving $60 to $70K cars, and putting another $100K into their homes, by utilizing interest only 3 year mortgage products with no income verification but big balloons and steep increases in interest.    

Having said that I love the 10 times the avg. salary on payroll for the CEO of a company as a good rule of thumb.  But as far as the question "is someone's brain being worth billions of dollars, or their hands?"  The answer is pretty clear cut to me.  Microsoft, Dell, Apple, Wallmart, and a handful of other companies employ over 2 million people with good middleclass incomes.  Without their founders, who are now (or their families are in the case of Sam Walton) 5 of the richest people in the world, we would be in a lot worse shape then we are now.

Whether we should pay the people who take over running these companies after they have gone public, $100's of millions of dollars is a completely different question?

If someone robbed your house would you bring in the robber to help you plan the security so it couldn't happen again?

Nothing new here.     Bailout or no those who got us into this mess will eventually find a way to continue to circumvent whatever is passed,  to and for their own purposes.

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