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Posted Sep 29 2008, 01:12 PM by Kim Peterson
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The bailout provisions that limit executive pay? Yeah, right. If you believe that, I have $700 billion in bad real estate to sell you. I read the executive compensation part of the bailout bill (which you can read here, but trust me, you don't want to).

The idea is pretty clear. Cut the pay for bosses at banks that sell toxic assets to the government. Take back the bonuses the execs got if a bank's financial statements prove inaccurate. Ban them from getting golden parachute payments.

But the loopholes in these conditions are huge -- huge enough certainly for a smart company to get around.  

"The golden parachutes have been exchanged for camouflage parachutes," one Democratic congressman said. "The execs on Wall Street will still get millions."

How is that possible?

The contracts stay. Top executives already have golden parachutes and other compensation lined up before they even start a job. The government isn't forcing any company to rewrite an employment contract. So any golden parachutes already in place will remain that way.

And future golden parachutes? They can still be paid, a Treasury official told CNN. But only if they're triggered by a sale of the company and not by involuntary termination or corporate failure. Now tell me, how often do you hear about a CEO's "involuntary termination?" Never. No company wants that public drama. Instead, a CEO might resign to pursue other interests or something like that. And what exactly is corporate failure? Very unclear.

Yanking bonuses won't matter. The Wall Street Journal says taking back bonuses upon discovery of inaccurate financial statements won't have much of an impact. That's because the existing Sarbanes-Oxley legislation already covers this, requiring that executives be paid for actual performance.

There's always a way around. What happened the last time Congress tried to restrict executive pay? That was in the early 1990s, according to USA Today, and companies quickly figured out how to reward executives with stock options, country club memberships and even private airplanes.

Former Countrywide CEO Angelo Mozilo, for example, made $362 million from 2005 to 2007. That included things like country club fees and the personal use of company planes, according to USA Today. The CEO of AIG received a company car, a home security system and financial planning services.

If golden parachutes disappear, the Journal says, a board can make up for it by giving executives massive signing bonuses. Or even bumping up salary by a few million. 

I don't mean to throw cold water completely over this effort. Some good may come out of this yet. Investors who paid little attention to executive pay in the past may start keeping track. And boards who previously approved ballooning pay packages might be more circumspect about doing so in the future.

So the politicians can go on bragging about how they won't reward CEOs for mistakes. It makes for good sound bites and happy voters.

But in reality, these executive pay provisions are not punitive or enforceable. 

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What I want to know would be:

   List names and $ money made of bank upper management of failed/failing banks

   Connect them to their political parties or politicans they support

   List the annual contribution to said political party/politicans for the last 5 years

   If money cannot be used (privacy issues) how about percent of contributions

I think this information would show a direct link from banking leadership to political corruption within the government.

Laura - California

I doesnt do any good to get upset over this. It isnt going to ever change. The rich will just keep feeding more of the American wealth to the other rich people until there is nothing left for anyone else.

I look at it like a house of cards....its missing some cards from the top and the bottom and is about to fall over. Our government ( AKA rich people) dont realize that putting more cards on top will only make it heavier and more unsteady. Too bad they dont realize that some very well placed cards at the bottom would hold everything up exceptionally well ! OH,  that would mean they would have to give the working class more than a few hundred buck to pay bills with. I guess a few billion to the working class would just a be a big waste of OUR tax dollars.

Is CEO#1 going to nominate someone to a board if he held down the CEO pay at another company as board member?  NO!  Is  CEO#2 going to ask CEO # 1 to sit on his board if he just gave him an obsene $$$ bonus and a $$MEGA Million golden parachute?  You Bet!!   How many midsize companies are doing the same thing with $500,000 bonuses and $1,000,000 rewards for ruining companies.   It's not just the Wachovia's,WaMu,Fannie/Freddie's.    If you own stock or have a 401k you are paying out for these "sell your soul to the devil deals".   Who's going to stop the madness?    How long till every company does the same?  $1 Billion bonus anyone??

Hey I know.... let the gov't give them a kaaa-trillion dollar bailout.... the middles class continues to struggleeach and every day... the poor eventually die off and twa-laa...everyone is happy. What you dont agree.... well the sad fact is... that's the way it's gonna turn out whether we (the little people)  like it or not. It's a trap like no other that we bought into long ago... The only thing you really have left to call your own...is HOPE. But remember, that too can be taken away if the price is right! Any attempts for positive change designed to help the middle /poor working class... just aint gonna happen unless WE make it happen! We've been squeezed enough in this life time!

This has to be the biggest heist in American history! Our economy system is being held hostage for $700 billion dollars! Should we citizens pay - NO, NO, and NO! The FBI could easily find the CEO's and responsible parties, seize their assets, prosecute them and put the funds back where it belongs - to the American people. Get mad America! Stop swallowing the propaganda and fear tactics. Don't roll over on this one. It's too important to the future of our great country. We will recover - I have no doubt. But, it's time for a new era of accountability from our leaders and a government for the people, by the people. Diana

We've all lost money buying stock in a company we thought was strong then suddenly tanked due to unforeseen circumstances- true financial condition hidden by bullet proof wealthy executives.  When you run that bank to withdraw your savings and deposit into another bank smart enough to avoid subprime, that's called free enterprise and survival of the fittest.  No bailout necessary.  Oh I forgot, everyone supporting the bailout got giant campaign contributions from the bullet proof and must return the favor so their offspring can continue buying bigger Lexuses.  Dr. Evil demanded only one hundred billion dollars.

The government and wall street are blaming the american people for these problems.  it is not the person who brought a home they could not afford, the companies who sold the home made it where they could by adjustable rates.  people just want a home so bad so they could have something of their own that they did not understand what adjustable rates means.  believe me the banks did not explain it to them anyway because they was going to repo the houses back and sell them over and over until they found a person who could afford the house.  it was a good scam until they got greedy. now the tax payers has to foot the bill one more time just like always.

some people was having problems before wall street were having their problems, people was unemployed, crime rate was up, and people was losing homes, plus some people do not believe in investing and how can you invest on mim wage jobs.how can you live on seven dollars and hour and have a family???????

min needs to be $10.00 an hour.  this only became a problem when the rich gets hit. now it is a problem and the middle class has to bail them out again and again.when does it stops??????????????????????????????

everything goes up but the pay.  taxes are going up because some one has to pay this bill and i wouldn't be surprize if the government did not raise their income level also, why not the tax payer will pay it.  we do not have a say.  they have good hospital insurance but do all tax payers.  I bet next year when people file taxes the government will try not to give anyone anything.

I believe we could fix this problem by giving tax payers $50,000 to $100,000 a piece and let them pay their house payments so they can get lower house payment, be able to pay for college, pay off their debts, take trips, get insurance, etc., etc.  this will start the economy back  because people would have money to spend since eveything keeps going up and up; and it wouldn't  even come up to 780 billion dollars.  there would be money to spend and the tax payers would know how their money is being spent.  this would also help wall street because some people would invest. pray people because we are going to need it.

PUT THE MONEY BACK INTO THE TAX PAYERS HANDS AND LET US DO WHAT WE MUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a joke - I haven't seen any professional athlete make these kind of millions in such a short time frame.  You get paid for failing miserably.  

I think all of these so called executives should be forever banned from finance of any sort other than their own while they are living on a minimum wage salary for the rest of their lives.  Treat them like a felon would be & see if they can be creative enough to live on that.   Most of them would commit suicide if they had to live on a normal every day Joe's salary.

I think they should let the big banks that are failing continue to fail, just like in small business, the poorly run business go out of business and the strong survive.  I also think that if the government wants to to revitalize the economy, take the $800 billion and split evenly to even LEGAL American citizen that earned less than $500,000 in total income last year,  your looking at roughly 225 million people that would each get approximately $355,000. Then the people that are struggling to pay their mortgages could afford to make their payments again, maybe even pay their mortgages off, this in turn would probably save most if not all of the failing banks due to mortgage defaults. This would also allow many Americans to pay off credit cards that may have gone into collections.  I also think that with that kind of money there would also be a large boost in small business.

I am by far no economics major and am probably overlooking something but it sure sounds like it would work to me.  I know I would feel more comfortable with the nations economy if the government sent out checks like that.  the government would also be looking at getting 20 to 30% back in taxes right off the bat, which would knock the amount "borrowed" from tax payers down to $560 billion instead of $800 billion.

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