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Bailout or Bustout? Fannie and Freddie

Posted Sep 05 2008, 05:41 PM by Andrew Horowitz
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5:45 on a Friday night. Somehow I knew something was in the air. The end of day upward move for a market that should have traded lower made no sense. It appears that now, according to the WSJ, there is talk about a backstop for Fannie and Freddie. It is a general consensus that any plan will have a very negative impact on the common shares and after hours shares are sinking. Freddie is now down 23% for the day and Fannie is down 20%. Wait, Freddie is down 25%, no 27%, uh......this is not pretty and I am not kidding.

Somehow, there is talk of a rally that will be in place as the market opens on Monday. Perhaps that is good news as I suppose that the guessing game is coming to an end and investors will be able to rest with the knowledge that we finally have a big fat failure, once and for all.

Of course, the good news is a matter of perspective; I can't imagine it is good if you have anything to do with either of these companies. (both leveling off down 24% now...oh...spoke too soon, Fannie dropping again, down 31%)

A government plan will certainly take some heat off of the financials for the moment and if the Fed/Treasury actually plan on taking over these mortgage monsters, the problem will then rest squarely on yours and my shoulders. We will pay for the lasting luxury of ensuring the survival of both companies through higher taxes and reduced benefits. Nice!

(By the way, both are only off by 19%...)

From the WSJ:

Precise details of Treasury's plan couldn't be learned. The plan is expected to involve a creative use of Treasury's new authority to make a capital injection into the beleaguered giants.

The plan includes changes to senior management at both companies, according to a person familiar with the plans.

An announcement could come as early as this weekend.

On Friday, a series of high-level meetings were planned between Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, the chief executives of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the companies' new regulator, the Federal Housing Finance Agency.

Treasury has been working with bankers at Morgan Stanley to use its newfound authority, granted by Congress in July, to devise a way to prop up the mortgage giants, which have been pummeled by investors in recent weeks.

The two giants are vital cogs in the U.S. housing market and their financial woes have threatened to worsen the bursting of the housing bubble.

"We are making progress on our work," said Treasury spokeswoman Jennifer Zuccarelli. She declined to comment further on Treasury's plans.

 

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That new housing bill helps no one but fannie and freddie ... my lender has chosen not to work with me so they will auction off a house that is worth 25 to 35 thousand dollars less than what the crooked appraiser said , it will cost them 30 grand to go through the forclosure process and I will put up a fight every step of the way ! they might get 60 or 70 grand for it at auction ( and that might be a high estimate) so then they will only recupe about 30 to 40 of the 118 they lent out .

I hope all of the crooked mortgage brokers ,greedy real estate agents and bogus appraisers end up on the streets too! !

I agree with Deborah.  If the government is going to bail them out, the CEOs should be held accountable and they are the first to pay back , before any tax dollars spend.   Also  I  want a job where I make millions of dollars and I can take the company into the ground. Its all about Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me . ME

Don't worry about it.   what every is happing to the poor and in between s will someday happen to the rich. You just stand back and watch.

How much more turmoil can this country afford all the major airlines and automakers and mortgage company are in the toilet. It's really bad when the upper class can afford everything but the middle class who pays most of the U.S taxes are suffering because all the upper class people can do is think of fast ways to cash in on the lower class people. It makes me sick everytime i her an info commercial on how its the best time to make money buying houses in a recession just another way the rich can cash in on the lower class.  

Go back 5 years and recuerate unjust salary pension stock options and any other rewards forthe outrageous behavior of CEO's  Board members and executives who engineered this financial mess. They should lose their real estate just as the drug dealer does! does RICO apply? What do Obama and Mc Cain have to say?

I think that those in charge should be penalized.  If you are in charge of a major company and you lose the company like this with no way out but government intervention than you should spend some jail time mandatory.  There is bigger risks with bigger responsibility and bigger pay.  We must stop giving out corporate parachutes to losers.  Take care of the winners because they took care of us. Take care of the veterans because they  took care of us.  Keep people in their homes if they are trying to make it help them because it is alot cheaper to take care of 25% of the burden than 100% of the burden.  Not to mention the long term effects on the economy.  Make it work.  You say No it cannot work because you have not tried.  Try and have faith it is the right thing to do and it will work out for the better in the long run.

First of all, most of you have no clue! This credit mess started with the Head of the Treasury years ago, that person is Allen Greenspan, he alone with his elite friends created this credit mess, they knew the out come and when the credit bubble would bust, Greenspan left just in time so that he would be off the radar and would not get the blame. this was one way for our BIG GOVERNMENT to take control of billions of dollars of property, by creating a credit crises. Look it worked. Wheres Allen Now?

Now the BIG GOVERNMENT want to take over the two organizations it created in the first place, and start this mess all over again, because the scam worked so well, and of course you the people just sit back in front of the TV and let it happen. What a JOKE We The People of today are. If it were any other country, the people tens of thousands of them would be in the streets protesting. Dem's or Republicans,

YOU have no clue. It does not matter who gets in to office there will be no change, the PARTY you chose will be the same. The Only REAL chane that might have come was when the Congressman Ron Paul had the chance to become President, he had the right idea for today, GET RID IF THE FEDERAL RESERVE, GET RID IF THE IRS, BACK OUR MONEY BY SOMETHING OTHER THAN PROMISES. BRING OUR TROOPS HOME. UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, QUIT INTERPRETING IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF WHO EVER IS IN OFFICE AT THAT TIME. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!

The public is angry and well they should be. What's the use of working and saving for a lifetime only to be forced to share with the crooks.

I sure hope the goverment does not bail them out, We as a goverment cannot take  the dept let the ceo's kick in some of there millions reright the loans so peaple can afford what the bought If the bought more then they can afford then they need to find somthing else do away with bad loans

so..does that mean if we have common shares of either company..our investment is vertually wiped out?

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