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EBay pushes PayPal on customers

Posted Aug 20 2008, 02:05 PM by Kim Peterson
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EBay is getting lots of attention today for lowering "Buy it Now" insertion fees, but a different announcement caught my eye. Starting in October, customers can no longer pay with cash or a check. Instead, they have to use a credit card or eBay's own PayPal online service.

EBay says the move is designed to reduce fraud. But if a buyer wants to send a check (or cash or a money order), and a seller is OK with that, how can eBay stand in the way? EBay is pushing PayPal on its customers so it can charge PayPal transaction fees and boost its revenues.

I've written before about how PayPal is the shining star within eBay, with $582 million in revenue in the first quarter. PayPal's revenue grew by a third from the year before -- much faster than eBay's auction business.

EBay is going to milk the PayPal cash cow as much as possible. The company would roll out a PayPal-only policy in the blink of an eye if it could. It tried that in Australia this summer, in fact, but the ensuing outcry caused eBay to back down.

I think Australia was a test case to see what eBay could get away with. Now, PayPal or a credit card is permissible. But there will be no cash trading hands.

In its defense, eBay says that people who pay with a check or money order are 80% more likely to file an "item not received" claim with the company (eBay also says those buyers are 50% more likely to have negative feedback, which is irrelevant now that buyers can't receive negative feedback). EBay also says that sellers won't have to deal with fraudulent money orders anymore.

I've won an eBay auction in the past where the seller insisted on receiving a money order as payment. It was inconvenient for me, to be sure. But some buyers and sellers prefer to do business the old-fashioned way. EBay no longer tolerates that.

Here's an overview of eBay's new fee structure.

Here's what others are saying about today's news:

Silicon Alley Insider: "EBay sellers have a thousand gripes about the company, but what they all boil down to is, 'you're taking us to the cleaners.' Instead of trying to explain to pissed-off sellers that they really shouldn't be so mad, eBay should make them happy: By providing the simplest, most efficient, and most cost-effective selling solution in the galaxy."

BusinessWeek: "Auction sellers have argued that eBay is favoring fixed-price goods to their detriment, neglecting the business that made eBay the e-commerce giant it is today. EBay executives have countered, saying that eBay will always have auctions, though it has to give buyers the ability to shop the way they want. Increasingly, that means giving them the convenience of buying something for a set price."

EBay seller posting on an AuctionBytes forum: "Are they nuts? I will have to opt for a merchant account, as I refuse to use PayPal.... But, how about the casual small sellers??? Seems like another scam to force people to sign up to PayPal..."

Comments

 

please don't let them stop Ebay live auctions

Stop live auctions and I will not shop on Ebay at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Charge to pay by PayPal and I will never buy on Ebay again.!!!!!!!!!!

Lots of luck with PayPal. I opened a merchant account but it won't accept one of my customer's credit cards. Absolutely no help from PayPal tech support. Now what do I do to get my money?

I signed up for Pay Pal Pay Later a couple of weeks ago.  What a nightmare.  I got a notice that they were sending my statement electronically, only, since I requested that when I signed up.  I did not.  Then, a few days later I got a paper copy of the statement in the mail???????  I cannot log into my Pay Pal Pay Later account.  I have tried every means to log in and I cannot.  I have contacted Pay Pal numerous times by email only to get another email from them telling me how sorry they are that I'm having trouble but never resolving the problem.  You cannot reach anybody on the telephone to talk to to help resolve the problem.  The recording just keeps telling you that you can visit www.paypal.com and long into your account and blah, blah, blah.  Horrible.  Awful.  Terrible.  Horrific.  Unacceptable.  Worse service ever, and that's really saying something these days.  I've had better service from Comcast or Verizon.  (I truly never thought I'd say that).  Whatever you do - do not sign up for any Pay Pal service.  You will regret it.

another way to take advantage of us buyers and sellers with the fees...

The only time that the seller wouldn't take Paypal was when I bought a musical instrument and was mailed a box of old newspapers instead. I've bought lots of things worry-free with paypal since. I'm glad they figured that out. Since Craigslist lets you list things free, they need to create revenue from transaction fees, I usually list things on craigslist, If I can't sell them locally; I'll fo ahead and list them on ebay.

As successful as eBay is,  I'm surprised there's not a viable competitor out there.  If one comes along, sign me up.

It sounds as if Ebay may be inviting some competition.  When the user's needs (whether buyers or sellers - or both) are either not met or ignored, someone else will rise to the occasion.  Bring the competition on! Everyone will be the winner.

I buy lots of stuff on ebay, however, if this new paypal policy affects me, then I will go back to shopping in person for the things my family needs.  When I buy from ebay, I use paypal to pay for the items, however, should I see service charges on my paypal account for buying ebay and paying with paypal, then my ebay shopping days are over!

I still like checks and money orders. Why change?

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