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Could a 2008-09 recession wipe out 7 million jobs?

Posted May 12 2008, 10:12 AM by Douglas McIntyre
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Based on the figures from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. unemployment was 5% in April. Those figures showed that 146.3 million Americans were employed in the civilian work-force and 7.6 million Americans were unemployed.

It should not come as a surprise to economists that the weakest parts of the economy last month were construction, manufacturing, and retail. The segments with some growth were healthcare and professional services. (For a complete list of jobs by sector visit 24/7 Wall St.)

The economy may be in a recession now. Some experts believe that growth will only slow modestly over 2008. Warren Buffett and George Soros have said that they think the downturn will be long and deep.

What happens if the recession deepens? How far could unemployment rise? In the 1973-1974 recession, real GDP growth dropped 2.1% and inflation moved over 10%. Some of the reasons for the move up in prices then also exist now, primarily very high costs of gasoline and food.

Over the period of the 1973-1974 recession, the DJIA dropped over 40%. Unemployment reached 8.7% in the second quarter of 1975. To great extent, it was a recession driving by incredible inflation. Increasing consume prices are only starting to show up in the U.S. economy today although they are evident in other countries like China.

The 1981-1982 recession was not marked by the kind of inflation which happened almost a decade earlier, but the downturn in employment was greater. In the fourth quarter of 1981, the unemployment rate hit 10.5%.  Among teenagers the number moved over 28%. Among blacks it was 20%.

The critical difference between the make-up of the workforce today compared with the two earlier periods is that a greater portion of the employment now in the services and financial sectors. In 1983, much of the job loss came in the durable goods sector, especially machinery manufacturing and transportation equipment. Many of those jobs have moved overseas since then. During the early 1980s, the financial sector actually added a small number of jobs and services employment rose by about 800,000.

The difference between 5% unemployment and 10% unemployment in the U.S. today is about 7.5 million jobs. If the U.S. hits a very sharp slowdown in 2008 and 2009, the job loss would almost certainly come from sectors which are to a large extent different than they were two and three decades ago.

Which sectors will be hit the hardest?

1. It would not be hard to imagine that the financial sector, which did relatively well 25 years ago, could not shed another a million or more workers this year. This would include people in banks large and small, real estate, and brokerage businesses. Morgan Stanley said it would cut 5% of its work force. UBS has just announced 5,500 lay-offs. Bear Stearns has chopped 7,000 people as it become part of JP Morgan. The U.S. economy employs about 8.3 million people in the financial sector and another 3.5 million in real estate. These pools of jobs could easily lose 10% of total, about 1.2 million people.

2. A deep recession would also wring more people out of the construction and home supply businesses. Over the last four quarters, less than 300,000 jobs have dropped out of those sectors meaning that there is still a likelihood of contraction. Total employment in the construction industry is over 7.2 million people. Most of those workers are contractors. The number of people involved in residential housing is down by 320,000 during the last year, but total workers on commercial projects are steady. In a deep downturn the construction of non-residential buildings will drop and the sector could drop by another 500,000 people.

3. The manufacturing sector has also been spared, losing only 200,000 jobs over the last year from total pool of 13.6 million. The auto industry lost many of its jobs more than a year ago due to buy-outs, but Ford, GM, and Chrysler have indicated that they may have to cut further. That will also affect suppliers of auto parts and assembly. The biggest cuts in manufacturing are likely to come in the heavy equipment industries. Watch for companies like Caterpillar and Deere to drop workers. A 4% rise in unemployment in this part of the economy means 550,000 jobs lost.

4. There are 15.4 million retail jobs in the U.S. That number is flat over the last year. Worker who sell general merchandise, food, and clothing make up most of these jobs. Companies including Sears and Home Depot has already announced their intentions to cut some outlets and jobs as same-store sales fall off. Even Starbucks is beginning to let people go. Many retail items which used to be normal purchases become a luxury when gas and mortgage costs eat into monthly income. Retail could be hit harder than any other sector. If unemployment grows 6% in these industries over 900,000 people will lose jobs.

5. Recessions usually hit the leisure and hospitality industries hard. Almost 25 million people work in hotels, recreation facilities, gambling, and restaurant businesses. As travel drops along with eating out, expect unemployment to move up at least 4% higher in these sectors.  That is a million people.

The direction of the economy is still likely to turn on the mood of the consumer. With gas at $3.60 a gallon and the price of most basic foods rising with the cost of agricultural commodities, it is hard to look to the man on the street to help push GDP higher. Most of the lower interest rates given to big banks by the Fed have not been passed on to consumers in better mortgage, car loan or credit card rates. If the government planned rate cuts as a way to stimulate the broader economy, it has made a poor bet

Faltering consumer spending has already hit the automotive, airline, and retail parts of the economy hard, as if that is not already beginning to be evident.

The economy is also going to be hurt further by a financial sector which is increasingly bedeviled by problems which could become much worse. A number of subprime ARMs will reset in the summer. Mortgage defaults could still spike and drop the price of housing further. Large banks and brokerages may bleed more from their balance sheets due to falling prices of mortgage-related paper and a drop-off in the value of LBOs debt and consumer credit.

The idea that the economy could give up seven million more jobs seems far-fetched, at least for those who have not seen it happen before. It is easy to forget that within many people's lifetimes, unemployment at the 10% level has occurred twice. And some parts of the economy, particularly housing and the financial services sector were probably not as bad off in 1972 and 1983 as they are today.

Comments

 

Al, Check this out!!!  Jim

Anyone know where our federal,state and city governments are hiding right now.Amazing as George W.Bush is set too ride off into the sunset,now worth more money then most people.Not bad for a person that never,ever had a real day job in his life.So why in hell,should understand,what the working man and lady,have too deal with in an every day life. Good move $600,qshould really help most people today.Thanks Mr.President for a great 8 years of nonsense you gave us.Dont let the door hit you as you run out the door.Thanks again.At least we wasted a few trillions dollars on Iraq. Thanks for that.  Jack

Higher Oil and Food Prices aren't the cause of inflation they are a symptom of growth in the monetary base.  Maybe the author would like to study the cause of inflation.

actually, higher oil and food prices can be a route cause of inflation. The two groups of thought on the subject are monetarists and keynesians. The former believes that currency is the key factor and the later believe the availability of real goods is the cause. Look it up.

Gday from down under.we are   watching your  financial sector with interest and have started to see the sub prime crisis ripple over the pond to us.Tell me how are is your stock-market doing at the moment? ours seems to be on the way up fuelled by our resource sector and Asias demand for minerals and energy.Im curious to know

Jack, get a clue and your facts straight. Iraq hasn't gotten anywhere near one trillion much less "a few trillions dollars". Additionally, Congress is primarily responsible for the budget; the President signs it to keep the government operating but his veto can only go for so long where the budget is concerned. The economy is bad and getting worse because of a confluence of factors that no one person could possibly have averted. So in my opinion be thankful for your rebate and use it to pay off some debt and get your own house in order financially. If we as individuals took a greater responsibility over our own financial lives, then the mortgage crisis might not be happening. The other primary factor for the worsening economy is the price of oil. Oil prices affect the price of just about everything else and that my friend is a function of supply and demand. If the economies of China and India had not been growing at roughly 10 percent over the last half decade, then oil would be much more affordable right now. So one final question, how is all that the fault of the President?

why does'nt the goverment have lay-offs?

My opinion is that we need  move toward a more sound monetary policy.  Maybe gold and/or silver-something besides the feds.   We need to get rid of these elected officials who are selling us off to the highest bidder as well.  It sounds like modern day "Economic Slavery" to me.  The problem is that "We the People" have no control nor influence of our currency.  Our country borrows money from an institution that simply prints it out, thus creating a debt that you and I pay back in taxes. By the way, where's that money going?  We will almost always have inflation if our government continues to borrow and spend.  Why can't I get a loan for 1 trillion dollars.  "We the People" need to it together, before a few control everything.  That's if we haven't waited too late.  

William, you must be the typical brain washed republican who voted for George in the first place; which you obviosly do not regret.  How about George's responsibilities for our loss of millions of dollars and thousands of lives to setup companies who take jobs from our troops/country and pay a outrageous mark-up for a 1/4 of quality work that was done prior.  Profits, profits, profits.  Congress does nothing because George and his father have key congressman in key places to keep the ongoing of Billions being paid out to their connected corporations.   Our presence is not needed there...we are only there to make money and thats not money that you see. It's rather the money that is deducted from your pay check.. These are facts and hopefully you see your responsibility in being ignorant to what our money is really being spent on; unless you are part of the top 3-5% in income for nation. If not, you have been another that has been decieved by the Bush administration.  

Now lets all deal with the real issue here its called Fiscal responsibility>

any comments on that direction??????????

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