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Would you pay for unlimited iTunes?

Posted Mar 19 2008, 11:02 AM by Kim Peterson
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After pooh-poohing music subscription services for years, Apple is talking to labels about that very idea, according to the Financial Times. It's about time. Apple could really energize iPod sales this way. But here's the twist: instead of the regular pay-every-month scenario, the fee would be bundled up front into the price of an iPod or iPhone.

In other words, if you pay more when you buy the iPod, you could get free access to all the music on iTunes for the life of the device. Executives talking to the FT said research has shown that people will pay up to $100 for that, or they would be willing to pay a $7 to $8 monthly fee for a music subscription.

Nokia has a similar deal in place for devices it's developing, and reportedly will pay music labels $80 for every device sold. Apple, in its typical drive-the-labels-nuts fashion, has only offered to pay about $20, according to the FT. Nokia is being hit hard with the news today; its shares have fallen nearly 8% this morning to $30.17. Apple shares are down less than 1% to $132.04, and shares in RealNetworks, which owns the competing Rhapsody music subscription service, are down nearly 2%. Napster shares are down 3%.

I hate paying monthly subscription fees, but I would shell out the $100 up front in a heartbeat. So far, music subscriptions have done only so-so out there, in part because people probably feel the same way I do and in part because subscription plans don't easily work with the iPod. That's why Apple has a real opportunity here to change the game, to get the masses fired up for the first time about paying to rent music instead of owning it.

There are lots of unanswered questions here. What about video? Is this idea too complicated for iTunes users? Would the music be streamed or available for download? One idea reportedly being discussed is that customers can keep up to 50 tracks a year even if they end their subscription or change devices.

Here's what others are saying about the news:

Silicon Alley Insider: "Apple gets to rejuvenate its slowing iPod line, and makes the iPhone even sexier. The flailing music labels get a slice of guaranteed income, bolstered by the world's most inventive consumer electronics company."

VentureBeat: "This report is especially interesting because it brings up the question of why Apple would mess with a system that has worked so well for them? It’s true that they don’t make much profit off of the individual songs sold, but those might as well be considered loss-leaders for moving the profitable iPods hardware units." 

TechCrunch: "If the iPod/iPhone came with unlimited music it would create an even stronger bond between Apple and its consumers. It would turn iTunes into a true universal jukebox that people would connect to on a constant basis to update their playlist, discover new music, and treat as an online radio." 

Between the Lines: "Apple has what it takes to make music subscriptions the norm. In fact, Apple can make music subscriptions palatable to the masses. Music is perfect for the subscription model if done well (and Apple can do it well)." 

Comments

 

Apple>> Don't worry, we got you covered, we'll manufacture poor quality iPod's/phones so customers have to renew their unlimited subscriptions sooner.

Music Industry>>  ^_^

I think this is an awesome idea, if done right. iTunes could help get the music business over the current slump its in with a move like. If all the P2P software companies are able to create a system where everyone is charged a low monthly fee just like cable or satellite TV, and a majority of this is distributed to the record labels, we can see a huge boost in new and undiscovered music.  Musicians currently only get paid pennies for each track on every physical album sold and the rest of the $15 price tag on a new CD goes to the labels and distributors. If you could download any song by any artist at any time you want, for a lower monthly fee than your cable bill, imagine the kinds of new music you would be able to discover at the click of a mouse.Apple  is not selling tracks for $0.99 on iTunes to make a profit, they are doing it to drive the sales of their hardware. Most ipods and iphones are under warranty for at least one year, so if it breaks you take it back and get a brand new one. Then its as simple as syncing it to your itunes library.  Once you stop subscribing to their monthly service, you would lose your music library and be stuck with over the air radio.  

Ummm...Limewire folks.  Free music you can download to ITunes.

For those complaining of losing songs and having to repurchase them, ever hear of "BACKING UP"?    Though I've never lost a song on my iPod or my computer, I am a firm believer in backing up, silly me I thought everyone did this.  I just purchased a new iPod and was disappointed that it didn't come with free music, though I came up with a novel way to buy music without going broke.  I save my change and get gift cards from the coinstar machines (no fee).  When I run out of iTunes credit I just go and cash in my spare change.

Why would you have to pay for songs twice?

You download things into your iTunes library and they can be moved to whatever iPod you associate with it. If you get a new iPod, you don't have to repurchase.

Pete luna: free radio is c-r-a-p. Maybe you enjoy censored music, pointless banter, and 20 minutes of comercials but I don't. Free internet radio? Even worse.

As far as the $100 price for music up front, sounds good to me. Just another option to consider. Who cares if you "own" or rent the music, it sounds the same either way.

This would be VERY, VERY BAD for working musicians everywhere, period!!!! A hundred lousy bucks from each customer, to then be divided amongst tens of thousands of artists??? You've got to be kidding. This is just a further degradation of the relatively low pay that MOST working musicians already must survive on. Sure, go ahead and discourage people from spending a lifetime of aquiring quality music skills.....  Bad, bad idea. This is a GREAT way to keep lowering the quality of music. And don't even get me started on the realatively poor audio quality of highly compressed MP3 crap...

So in paying an extra $100, you get unlimited listening until your device dies.  Then, all those songs disappear?  It sounds like it's a renal agreement, and when you purchase a new ipod, you'll have to go through and do all the work again (not to mention paying another $100 or so).  Apple already has severe limits on the "purchases" you make from itunes, this would just tighten their stranglehold on the ignorant ipod/itunes consumer.

Apple...hurry up.  Im tired of being ripped off by the record companies.  

If there's a way to screw us, they'll find it.  Guaranteed!!

I have just lost all my music from an itouch that died during an aplle prompted update whilst connected to a new imac, this is causing me to think twice before spending any more money with apple.

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