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Charity telemarketers can be annoying

Posted Sep 30 2009, 12:03 PM by Karen Datko
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Has a charity ever pushed and annoyed you to the point that you've cut them off?

When do you draw the line at giving? When they've hired a telemarketing company that pesters you, or if they send you too much mail?

"FMF" of Free Money Finance raised the question in a recent post called "Off my giving list." He stopped giving to a group he had generously supported because a telemarketer who called his house wouldn't take no for an answer.

"FMF" was on the treadmill when he took the call and calmly explained his family's approach to giving: "Any organizations that call us are asked to send us the details of what they are requesting in the mail. Then we can look over the information and take time to decide whether or not to give -- nice and logical like."

But she pressed on -- repeatedly. It proved costly. "I reiterate what I just told her and she says (again) that she understands and we end the call. But that's not the only thing that's ending. My support for this organization is ending as well."

Some readers thought this was overkill; one even called him a jerk. But many made some observations, including:

  • Many charitable organizations contract with telemarketers, and some pay a substantial price, getting only 10% or 15% of the money that's raised. Look into what percentage of your gift would actually support the charity's work before you cut a check. Mrs. Micah explained how.
  • Often giving once to an organization will subject you to repeated calls, even if you tell the outfit to put you on its do-not-call list. (Charities are exempt from the federal Do Not Call list.)
  • Telemarketing is often a tough and thankless job. "We were taught to keep pushing to get the sale, asking for lower and lower amounts until we couldn't even get a $5 donation," reader George said. "We were taught to do this regardless of what the person on the other end said."
  • If a telemarketer behaves inappropriately, you should let the charity know.
  • Don't give your credit card number over the phone unless it's an organization you regularly deal with -- and the solicitor can prove it by, say, reciting your history of giving. Or, better yet, ask the caller to mail you payment information.
  • Hold your ground, and don't give in to guilt. That reminds us of another solicitation device: When a charity mails you free address labels or personalized notepads or other useful stuff, do you automatically send a contribution?  (We have a lifetime supply of address labels, and we give the maps of the world from Doctors Without Borders to our neighbor's kid to distribute at the local Boys & Girls Club.)

Trent Hamm at our partner blog The Simple Dollar agreed with FMF's decision to cut the charity off. "I do the same thing. If a telemarketer from a charity interrupts me, I cease giving to them," he wrote. "I am a charitable person, but I value my family time and I don't want it intruded on by some ham-fisted telemarketer."

We think FMF was rather harsh. Here's what we do: We immediatelyy and politely decline to talk to anyone who calls soliciting money, unless it's an organization we regularly support. (Be careful. There are many scammers out there.) If we're interested in giving, we ask them to mail us a follow-up.

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Comments

 

It's been my experience that the charities with the pushiest canvassers are the ones who spend over 60% of their budget on fundraising. I try to check Charity Navigator or GuideStar to find out if the charity is legit, and if it has a sensible percentage (well under 60%) of its budget going to fundraising.

Charity equals SCAM!  Do NOT be a sucker....HANG UP ON THEM!

There are two charities I support because they also give something back to my family.  My granddaughter has Type 2 Spinal Muscular Atrophy so I support the two charities that help her--Muscular Dystrophy Association and Easter Seals.  I've never had either of them call me, but I do get monthly mailings from MDA asking for a donation, which does not bother me.  I think both charities do wonderful things.

I refuse to donate to any charities unless I've personally witnessed some of the good work that they do.  

Since I've never seen any charity do anything (except fund raising of course) I use a guilty until you're proven helpful attitude.  Most charities are bull crap and are designed to provide income as well as benefits to managers and staff who do very little actual work.l

The only non-profits, which aren't really charities, that  I donate to are the Boy Scouts of America and NPR since those are the only non-profits that I see benefiting our society.  

Also as a veteran I urge people not donate to "veteran's charities" INCLUDING the VFW among others (sounds weird and backwards, but hear me out). These "charities" and organizations have very little tangible impact on too few people.  Believe it or not, Uncle Sam does an excellent job of taking care of ex-service members, especially those of us who were disabled in the line of duty and their families.  The VA despite it's flaws still works.  Our educational, medical and lifestyle benefits are more than most of us can ask for.  We've come along way since Vietnam.

Considering there are a million different charities out there, there is really no reason to support one that tries to bully you into giving.

one thing to consider: if you give them once, the list will be shared and they will pester you for the rest of your life.

I used to talk to them , but now I just hang up. I hope it is more efficient for a poor folks who have to do it. The volume of calls has been reduced significantly since I started hanging up. I get the calls now maybe twice a month.

I support charities, but I prefer to give a large sum to just one or two of them, otherwise the amount of paper I get is unbelievable.

Thank you Mark for trying to set people straight even though it will fall on deaf ears or infuriate the affected tax excempt organizations.  Veterans exspecially those that are truley injured deserve every bit of medical attention they need and a disability benefit but so many recieve benefits for minor issues and then work full time it is amazing how well off financially they are.  I have a client with a knee issue, granted it causes him some discomfort but he not only recieves tax free disabilty (other people pay taxes on employer provided disabilty) but he was close enough to retirement he recieves that in addition to disability under a recent law.  He will double dip for 10 years then his retirement will be boosted 50%.  He also works full time as a government contractor filling his prior military post at 3 times his military pay.  Granted not everyone gets that kind of a deal but name one other industry or proffesion where someone gets payments for life.  Best of all his knee injury came from playing basketball in his free time.

The Indiana Fraternal Order of Police lost my support by calling incessantly, literally a few weeks after I would make a donation.  It was ridiculous!!!  We don't have a lot of extra cash, but we do have a charity budget.  It's just as easy to remove a charity for harrassment, as it is to add them to the budget in the first place.  Like someone said above, there are countless charities to choose from.  

The blood bank constantly calls!  They called on Easter morning one time (I couldn't believe it!) and I chewed them out and told them to take me off their list.  They still called back a few months later!  I believe it's important to give blood if you can, however this blood bank has made me change to another.  The new one doesn't bother me nearly as much and they get just as much blood out of me.

Also, a number of years ago I gave to Habitat for Humanity and they sold my name to EVERYONE (at least 10 other charities)!  I could tell because they misspelled my name.  I like Habitat and would like to donate, however I am so afraid that they will sell me I have not given them anything since.

If you can honestly afford to give and find a worthy cause, go for it.  But charity begins at home.  If you have no savings and bills up the wazoo, give to your family first and get those credit cards paid down.  See debtbeat.com/.../charity-begins-at-home.html  My thoughts exactly.

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