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Beware double dipping on ‘clunkers’

Posted Aug 24 2009, 03:49 PM by Karen Datko
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This post comes from James Limbach at partner site ConsumerAffairs.com.

A coalition of consumer groups has called on the U.S. Department of Transportation to ensure -- as the agency winds down the "cash for clunkers" program -- that dealers are not double dipping and getting paid twice -- once by their customers and again by the government.

During the past several weeks, the rejection rate for cash for clunkers transactions has hovered around 80%. Many dealers jumped the gun and entered into a high volume of contracts in July, before the rules governing the program were issued and before any deals were approved. Since then, the program has been overwhelmed, causing delays in the payment of $3,500 or $4,500 per clunker to dealers.

As a result, many dealers are on the hook for tens of thousands of dollars or more. Experiencing cash-flow problems and under pressure from lenders, some dealers have resorted to pressuring their customers to make up the difference. Cash for clunkers sales end today, Aug. 24, at 8 p.m. ET. Dealers have until Tuesday, Aug. 25, at noon to file the required paperwork with the government.

Some dealer associations even provide standardized "contingency agreements" for their dealer members that shift all the risks for rejected deals from the dealers to car buyers. Whether they signed the agreements or not, car buyers across the country have complained of being pressured to give the dealers $3,500 or $4,500 extra in cash or sign a new contract agreeing to pay more, typically under threat of losing their new car or having the dealer report it stolen.

Acknowledging the consumer groups' complaints, DOT posted information on its Web site to advise car buyers that they do not need to sign the contingency agreements. However, many car buyers are unaware of that information. Having surrendered their clunker and dependent on their new car for transportation, they are vulnerable to being pressured, even if they did not sign.

Car buyers have no way to know if the dealer is being paid by the government, making it easy for auto dealers to game the system by collecting the $3,500 or $4,500 from the car buyers and collecting that amount from the government.

To protect taxpayers and reduce the risk of fraud and abuse, the groups are calling upon the DOT to require auto dealers to certify in writing that they have not already collected the amount of the incentive from the car buyer or reconfigured the deal in a subsequent contract.

They also say DOT should send a notice to the car buyers informing them that the deal was approved and the dealer was paid either $3,500 or $4.500. DOT is also urged to provide a simple pre-addressed form with prepaid postage for the car buyers to mail to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration if they have paid that amount to the dealer themselves, or if they entered into an amended contract to buy the same vehicle.

Joe Ridout, consumer services manager of Consumer Action, said, "By including these simple safeguards, the Department of Transportation can both protect consumers and verify that the taxpayers' investment in this program has not been misused."

DOT spokesman Bill Adams told ConsumerAffairs.com that as the program winds down, the department has three shifts working across the country to make sure dealers get their reimbursements. Adams added that DOT "will continue to be diligent about the potential of fraudulent activity by all who are involved in the transactions."

He said, "Consumers are not required to sign contingency agreements to pay back the dealer should the cars credit be rejected."

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Comments

 

Naturally it is a multi-page document that must be aproved by a b-crat instead of allowing the transaction to proceed subject to audit.  The government cannot make anything easy.  This is just a preview of what government-run healthcare would be like, only it would bemany times worse.

Yes, Larry, because our tax system is so simple, with very few rules and no paperwork and you get your refund back instantly.  Its not the buyers fault nor the DOT's that dealers jumped the gun.  This was a 3 billion dollar program, of course the paperwork should be right before they hand out this money, otherwise dealers would be selling Hummers under the CARS program.

By the way, we already have government run healthcare, its called Medicare, Medicaid and Veterans hospitals.  And if you don't think there is just as much, if not more bureaucracy in the private insurance industry, you've been living under a rock.

Yes, Maisie, I see your sarcasm about the tax system, but recall if you will that if you falsify your taxes, you go to jail.  Ask Martha.  I was not saying that it was okay to jump the gun, but the government could have made this much easier from the start. Why not on line?  If there is fraud, then handle it through audit and prosecution if need be.

You're right about those government run heath plans and they are all running out of money.  They send out letters about false diagnosis and hand out aspirin instead of surgery.  At least with a private insurance company I can change companies.  If it comes to single payer (gov. only) for everyone, there will be no second choice.

It's fine here under this rock and it is paid for.

How about, why are you all surprised?  The way the automobile dealers sell cars is akin to a carnival huckster, and perhaps one of the main reasons for the HUGE decline in purchases is that people are fed up with the overpriced, over depreciated costs involved.  You can not raise prices on a hugely depreciating commodity without hitting the ceiling on what people will pay.   So,, think laying out 50K for a family SUV is sustainable in the market place.  Look at the lots.  We are done with the stupid love affair with the overpriced vehicle in this country.  The glory days are over.

"At least with a private insurance company I can change companies."

Yes you can, as long as you don't have a pre-existing condition and can afford to pay premiums that's as much as a house payment.  I am fortunate I have health insurance through my company, but if I lost my job, I couldn't afford what my company subsidizes.  Also, the CARS program was ONLINE.

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