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What we wish we'd known

Posted Aug 10 2009, 06:52 AM by Karen Datko
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This post comes from J.D. Roth at partner blog Get Rich Slowly.

Kris called me at 7 the other night, just as I was sitting down to write the Friday "Ask the Readers" post. I was sorting through the week's questions when the phone rang.

"Are you busy?" she asked. "Can you do me favor?"

"Maybe," I said. "It depends on what it is."

"Ryan's car broke down," Kris said. "He's stranded here at the lab and can't get home. Can you give him a ride across town?"

"Sure," I said. But I did the mental math: The trip would take me a couple of hours. Because I hadn't yet started on the morning's post, I knew I'd be up late.

I drove to Kris' office to pick up Ryan. Ryan's a young man, just out of college. He did some temp work in the construction industry before getting a job as a scientist. He and his girlfriend are getting married in two weeks. They rented a house together and were supposed to have moved out of their apartment by tomorrow. With Ryan's car in the shop, that was going to be difficult.

"What kind of work do you do?" Ryan asked as we drove across Portland to Beaverton.

"I'm a professional blogger," I said. "I write a blog about money."

"Stocks and bonds and stuff like that?" he asked.

"A little," I said. "I do cover the details, but a lot of the time I write about the mental aspect of money. I'm interested in the psychology, in the behavioral side of personal finance. I don't know how your money skills are, but mine weren't very good when I was young, and that's mostly because I had bad habits."

"I'm lucky, I guess," said Ryan. "My parents taught me about money, so I try to do the right thing, like avoid credit card debt. I try to." From the way he said it, I thought that the whole car repair/wedding/renting a new house combination might be taxing his reserves.

"Thanks for the ride," Ryan said as we pulled into the apartment complex.

"No problem," I said. "I'm happy to do it. People have done the same for me in the past. It's my turn to pay it forward."

As I drove home -- windows down, the Mini's sunroof open, listening to '80s synthpop -- I thought about what it was like when Kris and I were starting out. I remembered what it felt like to go through the motions of adult life, hoping that I was doing things the right way. "It's too bad I didn't have an instruction manual," I thought.

But what would an instruction manual for personal finance contain? What would have helped me most when I was starting out? What would help me most now? Instructions for how to invest? A list of steps for buying a house? Tips for avoiding overdraft fees? Or would I have profited from the more psychological stuff -- like how to deal with failure?

At stoplights, I jotted down a list of the five things I really wish I had known when I was younger:

  • Why it's important to pay yourself first. My father tried to tell me this when I was 19, but I just wasn't ready to listen. Now, after having watched Kris sock away up to 25% of every paycheck for the past decade, I understand how important it is to set aside savings -- for vacations, for homebuying, for retirement -- before doing anything else with your income.
  • How to harness the power of compounding. I wish somebody had shown me a chart demonstrating the difference between paying a credit card company 18.9% interest on $10,000 versus a bank paying me 3% interest on the same amount.
  • How to avoid the seductive trap of lifestyle inflation. As my income grew, so did my spending. In fact, my spending grew faster than my income. It never occurred to me that I ought to save this money. And it took me years to understand that most of the stuff I was buying would end up gathering dust after very little use.
  • How to avoid the chains of debt. Debt is slavery. The less you spend, the more flexibility you have. Because I developed debt early and quickly, my choices were limited. I had to take any job I could because I was tied to the monthly payments. And then, once I'd recognized the error of my ways, it took years to break the chains that bound me.
  • How to save on things both big and small. My friend Ramit seems convinced that small frugality doesn't matter. I disagree. I've never really had a problem saving on the big stuff. I research the hell out of most expenses over $500. It's the small stuff that has killed me, and that's largely because I thought it didn't matter. The small stuff does matter. If I'd known that sooner, I could have avoided a lot of pain.

"What do you wish you'd known about money when you were younger?" I asked Kris when I got home.

"Well, I never really had a problem with spending or with debt," she said. She thought for a moment. "I wish I had known to pay myself first, even when I couldn't afford to save very much." (This coming from a woman who saves a quarter of everything she earns.)

I get the sense that Ryan will do just fine. He has a good head on his shoulders. He's being careful, even in the face of so many financial stressors. I just wonder what he'll be thinking 15 years from now, when he's my age.

What do you wish you had known about money when you were younger?

Related reading at Get Rich Slowly:

Financial advice from my father (when I was 19)

Book review: ‘Debt is Slavery'

The ongoing battle with lifestyle inflation

Comments

 

I really wish I'd started saving money sooner.  I worked my way through college, and anything left over after tuition and books was spent on little things, because I "deserved" it.  

It's great to spend money to have fun, but I cringe when I think of the savings account I'd have now if I'd saved just a bit of all that.  I didn't catch the savings bug until I was 25, so that's a lot of years I could have been padding my emergency fund.

I am a lucky woman.  I started maxing out my Roth IRA at age 22, and have done so every year (plus funded my 401k when one was available).  I am now 29.  While the market sort of slammed my Roth, I am proud my my dollar cost averaging effort over the last 7 years.  It's called discipline people.  

I was going to write a long dissertation as to how major life events caused me to change my consumption habits, but I won't. Let's just say that hindsight is 20/20 and that I should have listened to my parents' advice.

We do pretty well for ourselves now, but I spent years trying to keep up with my higher earning friends. My wife did the same. Reality fish-slapped us and changed our habits. Better late than never :)

The problem is that at one point, most of us did get those lessons in one form or another.  My first bank account came with lessons on compounding, I was told to save my oney from my summer job, could neve keep up with the jones, and was told the only reason to carry credit card debt is to build a credit rating.

Thing is, as a culture we have great difficulty deffering to authority, and when we do, it's to the authority telling us how great things will be and how little work we need to do and how right we are about everything.  This is true from puberty to death.  We just don't want to listen to anyone telling us what we don't want to hear.  The on the other side, the powers of finance and retail shout the virtues of overspending (to generate their profits) so it's small wonder no one can hear the good advice anymore.  Factor in the fact they'll fire their workforce before they let profits fall and we're in a catch 22 situation where we need to overspend to keep our jobs, so the good advice sounds bad.

This might sound funny, but I wish I had known about Craigslist/thrift stores/ebay. My parents always liked to buy new, even if they weren't buying much. I never really knew about their finances until I was a young adult, so I didn't really think about it, but I learned how to budget. Once I left the nest, I budgeted until it hurt. I can squeeze a penny until Lincoln screams! Had I known about "alternative" ways to acquire the things one needs or wants for less money (and the goods are often in like-new condition at a fraction of the cost), I'd have saved even more and still have had the same stuff.

Growing up in a household where we sometimes had to boil water because the gas was shutoff or having to light candles because the electricity was shutoff (thank goodness never at the same time) you'd think I would have been better with money.  Though as an adult never had any utility shutoff, but when I think of all the money I wasted on crap instead of saving it makes me want to kick myself.  

I second the previous poster on Craigslist and thrift stoers, I'd like to add Freecycle to that list.  

I wish I'd known enough to avoid deep student loan debt.  I bought into a myth that education spending is fine because you'll earn it all back someday with a high-paying job secured with your prestigious degree.  I could have have received an excellent education a less-pricy institution and been able to focus on saving instead of debt repayment after graduation.  (And I didn't know about employer education reimbursement plans either; I'm very glad I learned about them before I started any graduate-level education.)

Growing up I was always taught you pay your bills first then you play, and I always did that. If I had anything charged on a credit card I always had what it took to pay it off in a savings account. All bills were payed on time,rent, utilities, phone ect... never a late fee. But after that I was of the mind I earned it, so I could spend as I pleased. I don't have all the "stuff" most people do, but I really can't tell you about all the meals out, or trips I took. Trips were across state to visit friends, not to some place I had ever been. Now I am working my butt off to be able to put some money in savings. Only have 15 years till I retire and life will be alot slimmer in the spending.

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