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The real personal-finance challenge

Posted Mar 06 2009, 06:57 AM by Karen Datko
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This post comes from Trent Hamm at partner blog The Simple Dollar.

Recently, Ramit Sethi at I Will Teach You To Be Rich posted an article called "Trent says The Scrooge Strategy is ‘short-sighted' -- I respond with a challenge." The basic point of the post was that an average person is better off spending an hour eliminating big bills instead of focusing on little frugal tips.

For example, a person with $20,000 in credit card debt is better served spending an hour getting interest rates reduced than spending an hour installing a programmable thermostat.

I don't dispute that argument a bit. Instead, my feeling is that a person is in the best shape of all if he or she takes two hours and do both. The programmable thermostat won't be as big of a boon as the interest rate reductions, but if you can save $200 over two years from an hour's worth of work, you should definitely do that, too.

It's easy to focus on the five biggest financial drains in your life and take care of them. It's a great way to get started on turning your financial life around. However, if you simply shut off the spigot after dealing with those five things, you're missing out on a ton of things that are quite worthwhile.

I think that this challenge actually reveals several interesting things about personal finance.

A sizable group of people really is interested in only the "big five" things. The only behavior they're interested in changing in their lives is the behavior that can result in a large, very tangible and very straightforward financial benefit. For people in this group, calling the credit card company to get a rate reduction that reduces the monthly payment by $50 is worthwhile, but replacing a light bulb that can save 50 cents a month isn't worthwhile. I think Ramit is speaking mostly to this group.

A sizable group is interested in some degree of frugality. These people are on board with the 50 cents a month saved due to a light bulb change, but they start to balk at things like rewashing Ziploc bags. For the most part, this group is governed by some form of "hourly rate" of frugality, whether they quantify it or not. Is this frugal act worth my time over the long haul? That's the key question for this group. I'm in this group, and I think a large portion of my audience is as well.

There's also a group I would call "frugality extremists." These are the Ziploc bag washers, the people who will gladly invest quite a bit of time to save a dollar or two. I find these people and their ideas interesting, but not necessarily applicable to my life.

The stages of recovery

I think people tend to go through a few big, general stages during their financial recovery. At first, people try the "big" things. They make a debt-repayment plan. They make a budget. They get the interest rates reduced on their credit cards. They eliminate a few monthly bills. They set up some automatic savings and automatic investing plans.

And, for some people, that's enough. These steps get their financial lives under some semblance of control, so they stop here, viewing further steps as unnecessary.

Other people are empowered by reductions in their spending and continue to seek out smaller and smaller solutions. They tend to adopt frugal tactics. They re-evaluate all their spending carefully and start trimming the fat they discover. They try things like shopping lists and new light bulbs and preparing meals at home, and even things like making their own laundry detergent.

Eventually, people find a balance between the way they want to live their lives and the desire to save more money. For some people, homemade laundry detergent is a step too far; for others, it's a great tactic.

At this point, people tend to start getting into good financial shape. Their net worth goes from negative to positive, and they start building up some serious savings. They pay off their house. They start investing.

And eventually, they reach a point where they can make serious life decisions. They can jump to the career of their dreams. They can retire really early.

As you can see, there is no single path that everyone follows to financial success, but there are some milestones that many of us share. The challenge, in my eyes, is simply figuring out that path for yourself. How far down the frugality path do you want to go? What are your dreams?

That, my friends, is the real challenge.

Related reading at The Simple Dollar:

Do you want to be rich?

A step-by-step guide to building a big, healthy emergency fund

The cost of the psychology of new

Comments

 

People need to learn a few things.

First everyone is different, and every situation is different.  That is why there are no cookie cutter solutions for getting your finances in shape.

Two what will result in the greatest good for you depends on where and who you are.  That is why you have to do it yourself.  The only thing anyone can tell you is where to start that is you always start by educating yourself, listening and following others is what gets you in trouble.

Third never listen to people that tell you they can teach you to be rich, they get rich by sucking your dollars out of your pocket for their garbage.

Fourth you are not entitled to anything in life, you get what you deserve, so if your to lazy to take action and educate yourself then you deserve to be someone else slave.

Fifth fanatics are mentally challenged individuals that have nothing in reality to do with what they preach.  Washing plastic bags cost more then the bag is worth.

Sixth is be honest with yourself, if you do not understand something then do not try to do it.  If you do not know how to use a wrench tying to fix a tap wll cost you more then calling a plumber, and likewise if  you do not know what you are investing in it will cost you in the end.  Guess what education and knowing yourself go hand in hand.

Seventh is the truly smart person realizes just how dumb they really are.  It is not until you are able to admit what you do not know that you will start to look for answers to your questions.

It was through admitting we did not know everything that our family got its financial house in order.  We found the answer when we were honest enough to admit we need to look for them.

All my best to all of you from RobertD at www.budgetingsense.com

I too fit into the "interested in some degree of frugality" category. It becomes a case of diminishing returns - you save a lot on the first pass (cut the premium cable, shop the supermarket sales, etc), less on the next pass (clip grocery coupons, etc), and so forth until you are talking about the pennies saved by reusing baggies. Everyone is different in terms of how far they are willing to go. I also find some frugality extremists ideas interesting because a lot of them involve consuming and wasting less, which is worthwhile for a lot of reasons besides money. And I think a lot of people simply enjoy the challenge of finding the cheapest way of doing things, which is fine too.

In a matter of a couple of weeks I went from spend-thrift to frugalist extremist--I had to put my dad in a nursing home...that $2700 a month bill paid in cash on the first of the month was NOT covered by any kind of insurance...I went into starving college student mode--I was picking up pennies, washing out baggies, picking up aluminum cans plus scrounging them out of the trash cans at work and the local university,three part time jobs in addition to my regular full-time job, took in a roomie, you name it--I could write the book.  Although it just about killed me..my dad was in a good place and I survived with practically no additional debt.

I've never understood the unending supply of articles telling people to skip a cup of coffee or brown bag lunch just to save a few dollars. It helps, sure, but it won't save you if you've made bad decisions on major expenses.  I completely agree that if you plan carefully and take care of the big things - the long term major expenses in your budget - there's far less need to sweat the small things.  So many people buy a more expensive home than they can easily afford, cars they can't afford, big expensive vacations or a houseful of new furniture they can live without.  Even the choice of how many children to have and when has a huge impact on finances.  

Yet if you arrange your life so that major expenses are not consuming all of your income and then some, you can actually eat lunch out once awhile, buy that cup of coffee, or see a movie.  Quality of life goes up dramatically.  At that point, if you want to save on little things also, it becomes a choice, rather than a constant necessity just to survive.

My problem with Ramit's blog is that he assumes that you have those kinds of big bills to cut back on.  If you don't have a credit card (or pay in full every month), then there's nothing to be gained by calling a credit card company and getting your rates reduced.  If you don't have a car, you won't gain anything by selling it.  And so on.  

The other thing is that Ramit completely underestimates how much the little things add up to.  A cup of coffee one day, a little snack on the way home the next, a magazine the day after--these are the kinds of little things I used to spend almost $80/month on.  I've got it down to maybe $40 now (hey, I'm only human) and I'm okay with that.  When you're just capable of living within your means, doing the little things help out a lot.  

Many VISA and MasterCard credit cards are making a killing because many people continue to pay a high rate of interest on their credit card.   Now, more than ever before, people need to be proactive in looking for the lowest rate credit cards.  It is quite amazing how many people still have high interest rate credit cards.   If a person has a high rate credit card or just simply accepts rate increases, then they will be paying excessive interest each day on their outstanding credit card balances when they could be paying a whole lot less.  There are some great low interest, no annual fee options out there.  My advice is for people to do some research about the different credit card options  and then transfer the balance to the right one. There are some great sites for free info on the options like www.lowinterestcreditcard.biz

I think that you are right Trent, their is a place for both types of expense cutting measures. Even the little steps taken will compound overtime. I enjoy both Ramit's & your writing, and each has an audience. Some of the audiences are intermingled. Some people are not willing to address minor expense cutting because they cant see an immediate benefit. If they were to measure that benefit over 5 or even 1- years they may be more open to those ideas.

Rich www.richlikeyou.com

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