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Bill collectors target debts of the dead

Posted Mar 04 2009, 06:18 PM by Karen Datko
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Here's a new trend we can do without: Having trouble collecting bad debts from the living, bill-collection agencies are increasingly going after the debt of those who no longer share our space.

It appears to be working, says a story in The New York Times. Relatives of the deceased are scraping together payments -- when they are under no obligation to pay.

The story says: "The law varies from state to state, but generally survivors are not required to pay a dead relative's bills from their own assets. In theory, however, collection agencies could go after any property inherited from the deceased."

MSN Money's Liz Pulliam Weston shines more light on the matter in an article called "When your parents die broke."

She writes that "children aren't on the hook for their parents' unsecured debts -- credit cards, personal loans, medical bills -- unless they had agreed to take on the responsibility" by co-signing a loan or being a joint account holder (as opposed to an authorized user) of a credit card. (The rules are different for debt that's secured by a house or a car.)

Generally, the deceased's debts may be paid if they left an estate that goes through probate. If they die penniless, that's that.

Not renowned for their charitable attitude, bill collectors are getting special training to talk to mourning relatives, who likely aren't expecting such calls. One firm, DCM Services of Minneapolis, calls it "empathic active listening." Another company will offer to transfer family members to a grief counselor if the call doesn't go over so well, the NYT story says.

The process is producing success -- most likely because of survivors' sense of duty to put a family member's obligations to rest.

We prefer this man's reaction. The NYT story says:

Eric Frenchman, an online consultant, said a DCM agent inquired about his late father's $50 Discover card balance before the bill was even due. Since Mr. Frenchman had been planning to pay it anyway, he emerged from the experience vowing never to get a Discover card himself.

Or, as Liz suggests, just hang up.

Feel free to sound off below or at a Your Money message board thread called "Readers talk: My mom passed away. Do we need to pay her debt?"

Related reading:

Steps you must take when someone dies

‘Zombie' debt is hard to kill

Executors can inherit an unholy mess

Sleazy new debt-collector tactics

Comments

 

How low can the scum bags go. How do they sleep at night

They have no souls....thats why they sleep at night

I didn't even need to read the last sentence of the article to know that as soon as I realized what was going on, I would hang up! Surviving relatives have NO OBLIGATION to pay a deceased loved one's debt!  Don't ever fall for this crap.

I had this happen to me. A scumbag was calling me at work after my dad died. I ended up cussing him out and he had the nerve to call again and tell me that wasn't very nice.  There should be more protections from credit cards and the collections agency.

Collection agencies are the bottom of the scum barrel. They will stop AT NOTHING to get whatever money they can come up with. My favorite are the "Zombie Debt Collectors" who buy debt from banks and credit card companies for pennies on the dollar (after the debt has been written off by the company or bank) and then come after the consumer for the full amount owed. For a debt of say, 1000.00, the "Zombie Collector" would pay maybe 10.00 and then try and get the full 1000.00 out of the consumer. And they stop at nothing to collect including calling friends, neighbors, seizing checking/savings accounts and then not responding to requests for proof of debt. One of the worst in the business is Calvary Debt Collectors, locally known as Thomas Law Offices of Hawthorne, NY. If you ever get any kind of correspondence from them, be very careful. They make their own rules.

These people prey on the uninformed public. I live in Texas and we take care of ambulance chasers here. They have to jump through a lot of hoops when trying to collect debts owed.

My friend lived with me for about a month before he died in a car accident. Since my telephone number was his last known, I am still getting calls from debt collectors - that was almost 3 years ago. There aught to be a law. It’s very disturbing to me since I have already told all of the collection agencies that call that he had passed away. I had one caller threaten me with daily calls because I refused to send them a death certificate. I’m not even a relative. What is the solution?

My father-in-law passed last year and my mother-in-law is in a nursing home.When my wife and I tearfully put them both in a nursing home last year feeling they would get the care we could not provide them in our home the nightmare began.We hired an attorney so we could make sure we did everything right ,we got some eye opening information.they lost all their money that dad thought would go to his wife and daughters.I get phone calls all the time from debts these heartless people say they have.Most of them are medical bills that were incurred after they were in the nursing home on medi-care.Every time I get one of these calls I ask them whats this about and they ask me do I have power of attorney for them.Be careful they are trying to go after my wife I think.I just tell them to not call here again and hang up,a practice that I will keep employing.If they want war they have come to the right place if they want money good luck they won't be getting it from us.Keep calling I need someone to vent on and I can't think of a better caller to vent all my anger on.

My favorite trick of these scumbags is when they call threatening me with lawsuits, wage garnishment, taking my personal furniture to sell for the amount owed, etc . . . all in an  attempt to collect a debt from ME for debts owed by someone else with the same name and try to convince me that I'M the one that's wrong.  I agree with Kim - they are the bottom of the scum barrel!  I tend to believe that, in general, people are a little more savvy and are getting wise to these jerks.  At least I hope so.  

My favorite trick of these scumbags is when they call threatening me with lawsuits, wage garnishment, taking my personal furniture to sell for the amount owed, etc . . . all in an  attempt to collect a debt from ME for debts owed by someone else with the same name and try to convince me that I'M the one that's wrong.  I agree with Kim - they are the bottom of the scum barrel!  I tend to believe that, in general, people are a little more savvy and are getting wise to these jerks.  At least I hope so.  

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