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Refinancing made easy: Our story

Posted Feb 09 2009, 08:21 AM by Karen Datko
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This post comes from J.D. Roth at partner blog Get Rich Slowly.

I recently had lunch with my friend Winston. We talked about our families, our finances, and our plans for the future. Winston mentioned that, at my prompting, he and his wife were refinancing their home. "The local credit union was able to give us a deal," he said. "We got a 15-year loan at 4.625% for just one-third of a point."

"I'm embarrassed to admit that I haven't done anything about my mortgage," I said over my plate of General Tso's chicken. "I wrote that article, and meant to refinance, but then I got sidetracked. I should do this tomorrow."

I paused for a moment and then added, "Actually, I guess I have done something. I filled out the information for Lending Tree, but I've decided not to have anything to do with them. They send me e-mail every day. I hate that. I finally wrote them a nasty note telling them to go away."

Winston laughed. "That's why we went with the credit union. We were going to use another guy in town who had a slightly better rate, but he was a jerk. He wouldn't leave us alone. We used the credit union instead."

Heeding my own advice

The next morning, I called two places: my credit union, and the company that currently carries our mortgage. The credit union never got back to me, and I had to wait on hold for about half an hour with our mortgage company, but eventually I did get to speak to somebody. "I apologize for the delay," he said. "We're swamped."

Because we were dealing with our existing mortgage company, and because my wife and I have made huge strides in our finances during the five years since we bought our house, qualifying for a refinance was easy. "This is going to be a breeze," the mortgage guy told me after he saw our credit scores. "Other than your mortgage, you don't have any debt."

Our current mortgage balance is $207,000 at 6.25% with 25 years remaining on the loan. Our monthly payment (including taxes and insurance) is $1,671, but we pay $2,000 every month in an effort to eliminate the debt sooner.

The mortgage guy quoted me two options:

  • A 30-year fixed rate at 4.96% with no points and closing costs of $2,556. Our monthly payment (including taxes and insurance) would be $1,409.
  • A 15-year fixed rate of 4.625% with no points and closing costs of $2,556. Our monthly payment (including taxes and insurance) would be $1,909.

I completed the refinance application over the phone. The next morning, UPS delivered the documents for us to sign.

I set aside time to read through everything carefully. I believe it's vital to read -- and understand -- your mortgage paperwork before signing. I called back with several questions, gathered the required documentation, and sent the forms back to Maryland.

Assuming no hitches, we should have a shiny new lower mortgage rate in about a month.

A difficult decision

To this point, refinancing has been simple. The most difficult part of the process was choosing which term we want: 15 years or 30 years. It's true that we've been paying $2,000 per month toward the mortgage, so we knew that we could manage the $1,909 payments for the shorter term. On the other hand, dropping our required payment to $1,409 would give us a great deal of flexibility should something go wrong.

My wife, the Excel master, created a financial spreadsheet to play with various repayment plans:

Ultimately, we chose the 30-year mortgage. Since we hope to continue accelerating this loan, our final payment is projected to be around 2023, only 14 years away. We made extra sure that this new mortgage has no penalty for early payoff. We could have chosen a 15-year loan, but we both agreed that, especially in this economy, we like the idea of having the flexibility to pay less than we plan.

Footnote: There's talk in Congress of driving mortgage rates down to 4%. If you think this is likely to happen, then it makes sense to wait before refinancing. My wife and I decided we'd rather take advantage of a good rate now than wait for a great rate in the murky future. Do what works for you.

Related reading at Get Rich Slowly:

When does it make sense to refinance a mortgage?

Mortgage prepayment made easy: Own your home in half the time

Is it better to invest or to prepay a mortgage?

Comments

 

We are upside down on our mortgage.  We have an adjustable rate mortgage and we want to refinance to get a 30-year fixed mortage.  What should we do?

It is good to know that some people are having luck refinancing. I have no debt

good credit and a steady job for 6 years but my current mortagage company decline

my application because the PMI company decided that I my job was not secure enough. What does that mean I don't know. I strugle with this company IndyMack for

6 months for nothing

I'm so glad to find this blog.  I need some advice as to refi or not.  My husband and I have a 15year loan at 5%.  We have 10 more years to go.  The principal is at $110000 now. We have an extra $43000 to put toward it anytime. That will knock it down to $67000.

In addition, we can put in $15000 per year (if all things are stable!)toward the principal. Our goal is to pay it off at the end of year 2011, which is 3 years from now.

Should we refi if the rate goes down to 4.5% or 4% ?  Is keeping a 10 year term but maintaining a 3 year payoff goal a sensible way to do?

The thing that got me thinking is if we refi @4-4.5% on a 10 year term, we give ourselves the flexibility should my husband loses his job--it cuts our principal payment by more than $600.00  If he keeps his job we can use the saving of this $600 interest to pay down.  Our mortgage company charges only $250 to refi.

I talked to their loan officer and he said it wouldn't help me much if I intend to pay off the loan early.   said would probably make sense if the rate does go down to 4%.

Please advice.

Thank you.

TC

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What about refinancing when you owe more on your house than its worth?

Wow… it sounds so simple… But with home values decreasing my equity has been blown off completely. How can in get approved if my debt ration is now at 95% of the loan… I can’t… IndyMac Bank as well all others are not helping those like myself and other with good to great credit history and secure jobs….

I have the same question as James M. Smith How can you refinance when you owe more  than your house is worth??

It does sound simple, but unless you have adequate equity in your house, have a 700+ credit score and obvious means of income (they are actually checking now) you won't be able to refinance.

Also, unless you are planning on living in your home for at least another 3-5 years, it may not be worth it considering you also have to pay closing costs.

For James Smith and VH, that is an easy answer....you can't.

2000 a month x12 = is 24,000 a year

(24,000x30 years)= $720,000

the real cost of the property is about 3 times the purchase or acquisition  price.

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