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When a $945 espresso machine makes sense

Posted Dec 30 2008, 08:34 AM by Karen Datko
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This post comes from partner blog Blueprint for Financial Prosperity.

Tim Clark, author of "The Prosperous Peasant," has a blog called Soul Shelter and he posted a guest article recently about how the anonymous author's friend Dave, a multimillionaire from the dot-com boom, bought an espresso machine for $945. At first I reacted the same way as the author: "It must be nice to be able to afford a high-end, fully automatic espresso maker, I mused aloud."

But as I read on, I saw the logic.

"OK, consider this: One double latte costs $3 at a coffee shop, so your outside coffee-drinking habit comes to $6 a day for you and your wife. That's $2,190 per year in after-tax dollars," Dave extrapolated. "Assuming you're in the 27% tax bracket, that means you have to earn $3,000 before taxes to pay for those lattes. That's more than a month's wages for a substitute teacher here in the state of Oregon."

I don't spend $3 at a coffee shop each day but he and his wife do. I don't spend $2,190 per year in after-tax dollars on double lattes, but he and his wife do. I don't have $3,000 before taxes to pay for coffee each day, but he and his wife do. For him, the $945 espresso machine makes perfect sense, even after you factor in the cost of milk, beans, etc. It may not make sense for me, but for him it makes perfect sense.

This is basically the reverse of the monthly payment math trick -- when a salesperson tricks you into paying more for something by justifying it in terms of monthly payments. If I were to argue that he's making a bad decision, I'd be falling for the trick in reverse by focusing on the $3-a-cup cost versus the $1,000 espresso machine. When you do the math and find total cost, his logic is sound. You could argue that he shouldn't be spending $3 on a double latte every day, but then you're not talking money anymore -- you're getting into personal preferences.

The bottom line is that you should always be doing the math. A commenter, Hank, said his mantra this year is to "just do the math." When you do the math, the answer is usually pretty clear. In this case it's crystal clear, once you get past the $945 upfront cost. The other comments at his post are pretty good too. I think many of the commenters know each other so it makes for some lively debate.

What are your thoughts on the purchase?

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Comments

 

That's the cost of the machine, not the ingredients...That's like saying, he's paying $3 per day to have it made...but not for the actual drink. Figure in the ingredients...high-end beans, cream, etc...I wonder how much of a bargain he's getting now.

The article states "The bottom line is that you should always be doing the math", this is valuable but I might also add: The bottom line is that you should always be looking at the behavior.  Instead of $6 a day for a coffee drink out, is there an alternative to the behavior.  Maybe "downgrading" to normal coffee with a $20 coffee maker at home, or get coffee at a place other than a gourmet shop?  Just an observation.  

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There is something good to say about a high-end coffee machine, like my Jura- Capresso ( $ 2,500 and worth every penny) you always have a fresh cup of coffee, not the stuff that sits in the pot for hours warming and getting stale, I can make expresso, cappicinnos, hot chocolate, hot tea in seconds. It is easy to clean and you don't need to spend alot on coffee, eight o'clock works just as well and tastes just as good as starbucks. And at $4.00 for a latte or those other fancy drinks I can make them at home for less really. Oh and $20.00 coffee "makers" are not the greatest, I can go through them at a rate of 1 a month. I guess I like my coffee, and If I want a decafe I don't have to make a pot, just a cup, but why would I want a decafe?

Can't argue with that math. I still wouldn't spend $945 on an espresso machine though.

With all that coffee in you...you are soon going to have old age bone problems...your calcium in non existant!!

3 years ago, we took the expresso machine plunge for about $750.

According to the internal counter of the machine, we have now served or sipped over 8000 shots/cups of coffee and have no doubts that this was money VERY well spent.  Do the math and you will see that each of those cups have cost us < .09 cents.  If you buy the delicious 3 lb. bag of whole French Roast beans at Costco, you are looking at perhaps a maximum of .10 cents in coffee cost.

'Can’t quite put a valuation on having a superb shot of expresso on demand, topped with a wonderful crema.

And we have not yet calculated the increased productivity  from downing a quad-expresso.  ;-)

In terms of price and value, it worked for us.  

"DO THE MATH' who cares if that person has money to spend on a espresso machine let it be

All this talk of math...let's break for a dee-licious cup of expresso.  

The let's figure out how to make some good vodka.  ; -)

Happy New Year's and cheers!

This is really, really sad. People are financially hurting out there because of the economy. And they're being scammed by people with get-rich-quick schemes -- and scammed by people chest-beating over their personal finance prowess with "save-thousands-of-dollars" schemes (such as this one) that ultimately put more people in the poor house.

Do you have any idea how many people have bought home espresso machines thinking that the quality will be as good as what they're used to? That the machine will operate itself and require no time or effort on behalf of the owner? (The biggest cost to coffee retailers is labor, not supplies nor equipment.)

Ask any Starbucks employee about customers who walk in and buy a home espresso machine, dropping hundreds of dollars. Within a few weeks they're back in line at the café again, shelling out $4 a latte with an extra hole burning in their pocket from the home espresso machine now sitting gathering dust in their kitchen. Home espresso machine retailers are making a killing off customers who think they're doing the math, but ignoring all the details of their own likes and habits and laziness.

I just wish personal finance con men like him were more responsible with their advice.

If anyone has "DONE THE MATH", you can be rest assured that it is Starbucks' marketing department. They know their lifetime customer value, and they sure as heck aren't devoting expensive retail space to home espresso machines because they think they're going to run a net loss of customers and profits because of it.

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