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Survival basics from Depression-era kids

Posted Nov 26 2008, 09:39 AM by Karen Datko
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This post comes from Julie Rains at partner blog Wise Bread.

My parents and my husband's parents were children during the Great Depression. Mine lived in large cities; my in-laws, small towns. Their families started that era from neither a position of wealth nor desperation; just to add perspective, though, I'll mention that their parents wouldn't have considered lack of indoor plumbing a sign of poverty, at least in their early years.

Here are the basics of how they managed to survive using tactics that are still viable today.

Play outside. Like most kids then, my dad spent his days when not in school outside playing with his older brother and the neighborhood kids. He did have to forgo riding on his tricycle after it was repossessed, but apparently found other things to do.

Outside play is generally free or cheap, even if it means driving to the playground. And, when I operated on a very limited budget in a small town right out of college, I spent much of my leisure time outside, usually hiking in the nearby mountains with friends. My favorite hikes were Stone Mountain and anywhere on the Blue Ridge Parkway.

Write letters. My father-in-law's brother used to write letters for a hired hand who worked the same land that his father, a tenant farmer, did. Sadly, the hired hand couldn't read and write well enough to correspond with his girlfriends, so he relied on someone else for his correspondence. 

Margaret espouses the benefits of writing letters as a way to get attention from companies. It can also be a form of entertainment or pastime, and a way to record one's history. My mother has letters from her mom, and reading them makes me feel as if she were right next to me, sharing her story.

Keep your government job or any not overly exciting but stable position. My mother-in-law's dad was a mail carrier with the U.S. Postal Service (a government job) and had a reliable source of income, unlike many of their neighbors. Her family was able to help others in their small, rural community.

I am sure that there are many exciting and well-paying government jobs, but a key element of their attractiveness is stability. There is often a trade-off between the opportunity for higher pay in a risky environment and lower wages in a safer arena. (Consider looking for a new job if you have a low-paying position in a volatile environment.)

Grow meals in the backyard. My grandmother raised chickens in her tiny, urban backyard; when she was ready to fix dinner, she caught a chicken and cooked it. My mother-in-law's parents had a garden on land they owned; everyone was encouraged to grow produce in order to feed themselves and sell the excess to neighbors, as the reliability of food distribution was uncertain.

The get-closer-to-your-food movement has been gaining momentum, though many never abandoned that concept. My in-laws now have a farm on which they grow corn, potatoes, peppers and more. My parents have always had tomato plants and my dad is an expert farmers market shopper, always investigating and committing to memory who is a farmer and who is a reseller only, who has the best produce and who doesn't.

Though I do have a few plants now, cultivating my backyard is one area that shows the most promise for saving money and living better.

Generate as much income as possible. My grandparents took in boarders, though my dad, still young at the time, didn't really like having strangers in the house. My husband's grandparents also had boarders, and the kids, then young adults, enjoyed the company. At some point, both of my grandmothers worked outside the home to bring in money for their families.

Frugality can go only so far. Cold cash is often needed to pay for basic supplies like food and clothing, or to make payments on credit card debt.

Get government-sponsored training. My father-in-law's oldest brother joined the Civilian Conservation Corps. He worked and lived in a camp in Oregon and learned job skills. Back home, he first worked as a candy salesman and then started an auto-parts store and trained his younger brother in business. Eventually, they both operated stores in small towns. My dad and father-in-law were fortunate to get a college degree on the GI Bill.

Today, taking classes at the community college is an inexpensive way to get work skills. Many community colleges also offer consultation for starting and running small businesses.

Stay put. My dad's parents lost their house to foreclosure. But, because no one else could afford to buy the home, they were able to stay in it. They happened to live near the downtown area of a large city, with work, schools and stores within walking distance, so it made sense to stay where they were.

Paul explores the concept of not paying the mortgage in order to receive benefits from the government bailout, though I wouldn't recommend this tactic (not that he does either; he was just sparking discussion).

Move to where the jobs are. My father-in-law's family (his parents and brothers) moved to Newport News, Va., so they could work in the shipyard. My father-in-law stayed back until he could finish high school and then joined them.

Obviously, this tactic seems to be in direct contrast to No. 7 and was useful only when World War II efforts began to stimulate the economy. But, having started my professional career during a recession, I'll echo that moving for work, if you can afford the startup costs or have even a basic relocation package (mine was 30 days in a hotel, allowing me to get a first paycheck and find a roommate before putting down a deposit on an apartment), makes sense.

Share. Having a home and a steady job allowed my mother-in-law's parents to share with others; at some point, they gave shelter to a young woman in need.

Here are some other things I've learned from Depression-era kids:

    • Save, and save more.

    • Invest.

    • Develop multiple streams of income

    • Risk and uncertainty are everywhere, even with government-sponsored benefits and guaranteed returns. 

    • When you retire, your job is managing your streams of income and investment portfolio.

    Other articles of interest at Wise Bread:

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    10 reasons why veterans make great employees

    Personal-finance advice forums

    Comments

     

    Even though it was some time ago, it is the question from the second presidential debate that still stands out as the best lesson from someone who lived through the great Depression:

    Asked by 78-year-old Fiorra from Chicago.

    "Since World War II, we have never been asked to sacrifice anything to help our country, except the blood of our heroic men and women. As president, what sacrifices -- sacrifices will you ask every American to make to help restore the American dream and to get out of the economic morass that we're now in?"

    This isn't just about what we are doing to struggle by as individuals, but what we can collectively do to get by as a group.  It is particularly important during this economic downturn that we start looking out for each other.  Fiorra reminds us of sacrifice, but maybe the challenge is in learning to see those sacrifices as opportunities.  Opportunities for service, for learning, for growth, and for responsibility.  The Depression generation was one with a profound sense of social responsibility - perhaps that is something we can take from this current economic downturn.

    http://www.justthrive.com

    We really should be turning to our elders in these difficult times.  They can offer loads of wisdom and advice to our younger, foolish generation.  Most of us don't really know what "hard times" are, and many who grew up during the Great Depression really do know what that is.

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    Taking in boarders is something that folks really should consider, especially in college towns.  The young couple next to me (no kids) had a 4 bedroom 3 bath house that they could have easily rented out two of the bedrooms to college students (going rate in my community $400 room/ single $250 room shared, two per room) plus shared utilities,  and made enough to majorly supplement their mortgage payment... oh no they "needed their privacy" like what are you doing--running around the house nekkid??.. they ended up losing their house to foreclosure...

    When we finally went totally broke in 1938, we moved into the basement of a 4-unit apartment that my grandparents owned. I don't mean a basement apartment; I mean a bare basement.  My mom wouldn't let me go to other kids' houses to play because she didn't want them to see how we lived if we returned the visit. In those days, the safety net was the family. I knocked myself unconscious one day in a bike accident and there was no thought of taking me to the hospital. I recovered at home. Believe it or not, I never thought I was deprived

    When I was growing up. I remember a loaf of bread was 10cents and a gallon of gasoline ws 15 cents. But who could afford either? Not us! You could work hard all day for 10 cents. Indoor plumbing was not even thought of.

    Young people these days do not know what hard times are. I don't think they could survive the things we went through. Times were tough. But we were tougher!

    Karen,

    Excellent article. Gosh that takes me back to when my Grandmother was alive and she would tell me all about growing up in the depression how the soup lines and bread lines were. Oh man did we ever get yelled at when we left lights on when we werent in a room. And then I hear about how the generation my parents uncles and aunts grew up in. I love those stories I learned so much on how not to live by their examples. I can go on all night but wont.

    Yes,we SHOULD be turning to our elders! Why aren't they featured on talk shows,interviews,etc? (Instead of the idiots that are regularly on) Show them that respect! Give them the opportunity to express their wisdom. Jennifer is spot on with her comments! Yes,the materialistic,foolish,younger BUY BUY generation.

    Let's say that a depression does hit us, ever hear people say they can't live without their cell phones?..i'm sure that would be the first to go! Cable TV, internet, and etc. start thinking of the things we can live without and appreciate we are not in one yet!..Be prepared, it doesn't look pretty out there!

    I remember the stories my parents told--Mom was born in '24, my late father in '27.  I treasure those stories now, even though when I was a kid, I thought their lives must've been awful!  Mom's family did have an outhouse, but that was how life was, and they didn't think anything of it.  So, today, on Thanksgiving, I give thanks for the lessons learned from my wonderful parents! (Many of those lessons I learned first-hand as they raised their eight children!)

    I was a child of the depression, but what we did then, is not always wise now, considering how times have changed, with all the crime.

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