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Unemployment benefits: Who gets left out?

Posted Nov 25 2008, 06:16 PM by Karen Datko
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Unemployment benefits have been extended and that's good news for laid-off workers, right? But did you know that many people who've lost their job aren't eligible to collect?

In fact, former Labor Secretary Robert Reich writes at his blog that "most people who lose their job these days don't qualify for any unemployment benefits at all."

And, we'll add, it's often low-wage and female workers who get left out.

The Center for American Progress Action Fund reports: "Under current law only an average of 37% of unemployed workers actually collect benefits at all, with low-wage, part-time, and female workers particularly harmed by outdated state eligibility rules."

Who can collect is determined state by state, and is often based on laws written in the days when the husband was the breadwinner, and worked one steady job until he retired.

Reich writes at another blog, "Even though those realities have changed, the rules haven't. In most states, you're eligible for unemployment insurance only if you've lost a full-time job that you've had for quite a while. This leaves out just about everyone who's lost one or more part-time jobs. And also excludes any full-time worker who had been at the job less than a year before they got canned."

The Unemployment Insurance Modernization Act, passed by the U.S. House, would address some of these issues.

Whether or not it becomes law, those who lose their jobs should find out immediately if they qualify for benefits. Even if you were part time, you might be eligible in your state. The Associated Press answers a lot of questions about how to apply.

Other information from the Center for American Progress:

  • The average worker who qualifies for this safety net gets $293 a week. The lowest maximum benefit is $230, in Mississippi. Nine states have a maximum payment in excess of $500 a week.
  • In June, 45.5% of mortgage delinquencies reported by Freddie Mac were due to unemployment or lost income.
  • During the current economic downturn, 22.3% of unemployed workers -- 2.26 million people -- have been searching for work for more than six months.

On the other side of the coin, the conservative Heritage Foundation says extending unemployment benefits prolongs the time that people are out of work because they feel less pressure to find a new job.

Comments

 

WOW. I have been reading some of these comments and I must say the people who must clearly must be rich and telling everyone to get a job. Have not read the news paper and maybe don't watch CNN. How can you be so judgmental? There are clearly millions of people unemployed that means employer not only have one application they have several thousand applications to look at. Listen to what the people are saying. Who wants to be unemployed? I live in California. I work 3 jobs to support my kid and pay my mortgage. I would love to have a job that would feed me and my kid and pay my bills.  Who do you think you are to judge people and ridicule people on getting some help? Unemployment is no picnic. No Disneyland. Listen to what everyone is saying there using there 401k to make it. You people who are judging have no sense of what is like to work hard. And then turn around and possible lose my house and everything I work hard for. You clearly Mr. Sirvent and all the others must be on capital hill where your paycheck is secured by my taxes that I have to pay every year to the irs being a single mom making 75 k a year. And for the person blaming the democrat watch CNN sometimes. When Bill Clinton left.  The UNITED STATES WAS 5.7 trillion dollars in the surplus. That means BUSH SPENT 5.7 Trillion dollar and then some.  So you go figure

Mr. John Sirvent as of Nov. 10.1 million people are unemployed. Maybe you can get there address and  give them a job since there living off you. Or  maybe you can right them a check so they can offically live off you....

Reading these comments was a real eye opener.  To be honest I never really gave any of this too much thought.  I'm single and have been unemployed for some time now myself.  What is different in my case though is that I'm a disabled veteran.  That really makes a huge difference.  The maximum unemployment in Ca is $450 a week.  At least I believe it is and that's what I get.  Combining that with my disability and I'm not having any problems.  I do feel sorry though for all the people who have children and live somewhere where the unemployment is only $250 a week.  If that were all a person was receiving I can't see how you could possibly get by.  You would have to have savings or some really helpful relatives.   Truly, how could anyone get by on $240 a week?  

Well, like everyone else out of work, I would like to get back to it.  If nothing else, being unemployed really does attack your self esteem.  Our country needs to take a hard look at what we are doing to ourselves.  Like the lady who made shirts.  There was a time when the U.S.govt. required vendors to produce those products here.  What is wrong with that.  The fact that they can get them made for less in India or Mexico is a short sighted view.  Look at the result.  We have people out of work.  Those same people are paying less or no income tax.  They aren't the consumers that they were when they were employed.  Do government officials honestly believe that saving $2 per shirt is a great deal?

Good luck to everyone looking for work.  And for those of you who seem to think that these people are just loafing take another look and really give it some thought.  No one wants to lose their job and draw unemployment.

Both Bush Senior and Bush Jr have proven to be the worst things that could have happened to America and especially for the Middle and lower incomed.  These two have allowed big business crooks and incompetents to wreak, ruin, and cause catastrophic damages to our Country that may take decades for it all to surface.  They have allowed jobs to go out of the country before trying to make them more competitive or replacing them with something else.  The jobs that Bush Jr is allowing to go now are the ones from people that are living paycheck to paycheck, he scraping the bottom of the barrel, can he go any further?  Bush Senior and Bush Jr have costed me two good jobs and hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years, it seems when I am getting onto my feet I am again knocked to the ground.

Every company has to pay into the unemployment agency by Federal Law, So we can have some help when we get laid off. Yes I lost my house, Have three kids and of course NO HELP FROM THE STATE. What the goverment needs to do is start making the companies pay for a certain percentage of people's Debts when they lay them off or fire them, then they wouldn't be so eager to lay them off! And it would ease the wrongful discharge law suites as well. Companies need to be a little more responsible as wel, l after all you wouldn't be in a financial bind if you didn't have a job to start with. Companies need to remember one thing the employee's make them the money so they should be a little more generous with their profits. This world is in a big mess no doubt and I don't see help any time soon...I'm in the low class level, I my self hope! that it will get so bad that even the rich will feel like their in the low class, I hope wall street falls through the bottom then they will feel and know how I live.  THE CREDITORS ohhhhhh yes their just as bad raising interest, late fees in this economy now, well I hope they do! I again hope that every body gets their credit rated so bad do to late charges, high interest  that NO ONE will qualify for credit. Thats some thing else the GOVERMENT needs to do IS STOP THE BANKS FOR charging you 35 dollars for over draft,  And the credit card companie's! I to hope they all go down! IT's time the lower class people get some relief. Oh yes I was on unemployment, I just finished school a month ago trained for a highly needed field at the top of the most highly needed list for employment in the State of Michigan and ges what I have no job, I have 43 applications out and there is nothing out there.  So a waste of my time for a year! Like I said I hope wall street falls all the way under, and all the millionaires and those above and ex specially the leaders that made the dicissions.

I feel horrible for all who have lost their jobs.  I really, really do.  It is terrible to hear what everyone is going through.  

However, we all played a part in this.  Business 101 tells you that anytime there is a sudden incline in the business cycle you are likely to have a sharp decline.  This is what we are experiencing now.  I assure you, we will get through this just as we did other downturns in the past.  We most likely are over 1/2 to 2/3 the way through this current downturn.  Keep an open mind please and read on.

Sure, we all didn't run a company and ruin it, but most of had a hand in creating this situation.  We almost all use credit cards, some of us surely bought some stuff we really don't need while times were good.  Had members of our society been more of a saving society and less of a consuming society, this and other economic downturns would not hurt so bad.  This I promise you.  

Maybe you are not the one who overextended yourself, and then lost things because of it.  However, there are way too many people who did do this, and this shear, enormous number compounded this downturn.

I truly hope we all learn a lesson from this downturn.  I hope that we all learn that being a consumer driven society is ok only in moderation.  People, we need to learn to save instead of trying to keep up with the Hendersons all the time.

I'd like to finish by saying there are sooooo many factors that one party can not be blamed for this mess.  Everyone from banks, to regulators, to automakers and even us consumers had a part in creating this mess.  It will take all of us to fix it as well.  The President or any one political party can not do it alone!

I feel horrible for all who have lost their jobs.  I really, really do.  It is terrible to hear what everyone is going through.  

However, we all played a part in this.  Business 101 tells you that anytime there is a sudden incline in the business cycle you are likely to have a sharp decline.  This is what we are experiencing now.  I assure you, we will get through this just as we did other downturns in the past.  We most likely are over 1/2 to 2/3 the way through this current downturn.  Keep an open mind please and read on.

Sure, we all didn't run a company and ruin it, but most of had a hand in creating this situation.  We almost all use credit cards, some of us surely bought some stuff we really don't need while times were good.  Had members of our society been more of a saving society and less of a consuming society, this and other economic downturns would not hurt so bad.  This I promise you.  

Maybe you are not the one who overextended yourself, and then lost things because of it.  However, there are way too many people who did do this, and this shear, enormous number compounded this downturn.

I truly hope we all learn a lesson from this downturn.  I hope that we all learn that being a consumer driven society is ok only in moderation.  People, we need to learn to save instead of trying to keep up with the Hendersons all the time.

I'd like to finish by saying there are sooooo many factors that one party can not be blamed for this mess.  Everyone from banks, to regulators, to automakers and even us consumers had a part in creating this mess.  It will take all of us to fix it as well.  The President or any one political party can not do it alone!

My husband worked as a Field Supervisor in AZ and has been unemployed since July 08.  He was fortunate enough to receive severance. I am self-employed.  We filed for unemployment after the severance was up and still have not received any money from unemployment.  They are so backed up they don’t know how long it will take before we will see the first penny.  If you are filing I suggest you file immediately since it has been 11 weeks and they are still processing our request.  He has applied for 5-15 jobs a week and has only had two interviews and those were in his first week of unemployment.  There are plenty of daily “you don’t meet our qualification” letters but no job offers.

In these hard times, we have learned a valuable lesson in money management.  We’ve learned that cable isn’t as important as it use to be.  We can run around the block for free instead of at the gym.  No one makes a better meal than us.  We are grateful we still have a house over our head. And that what money we have is Gods and we were terrible managers of his money.  My own personal revelation out of this mess is this;  It’s interesting how God can do with one salary what my husband and I couldn’t do with two salaries.  We had nothing in savings, no retirement, no stocks, nothing.  So far we have been able to pay our bills, mortgage, tithe, and eat.  The biggest change for us was giving it to God and to continuing to tithe.

Our church did a great series on “Bankrupt: The ABC's of Financial Freedom” with three topics; Attitude, Bondage, & Choice. If you want to have a different outlook on your finances take some time to watch the podcasts.  I don’t want to be in bondage to debt anymore.  Instead I want to be a blessing to others. I pray they can help you as they did me.  

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I can't help but notice that this article leans rather heavily on the idea that women are getting the short end of the stick in this. It is frustrating considering that almost every time I see job listings with men or women only positions separated from the rest, the jobs for women almost always outnumber those for men, sometimes three to one. Not to mention women with or without kids often get preference over men for a lot of services. That is sexual discrimination just like it would be if men were getting the special treatment. There should be equal job opportunities and equal benefits for women and men. That would be a lot more neutral message for this article rather than to say that women need a proportional part of my unemployment money on top of a DISproportional amount of welfare, food stamps, low income housing, energy assistance, and anything else I should be able to qualify for but can't get even though most women with similar situations hardly have to ask! Sexism isn't fixed by letting the other side be the sexist ones. Everyone should be given benefits according to their level of need, not which chromosome they were born with.

I've been out of work for seven weeks now. had my claim in just as long. When I appealed it, the commmision in Florida decided to intercept and reconsider. That was five weeks ago. I accepted a reduced wage three months prior to my lay-off just keep my job that much longer. In two weeks I must find another place to live that doesn't require deposits or monthly payments - the local mission? I'm out of food. The electricity gets cut off next week. I have worked my trade for 29 years without a claim for any kind of benefit. Now that I need it, I guess I must be homeless and hungry before anyone will actually help. My attitude toward the unemployed has certainly changed now that I am a member. True to our forefathers, the system given to us needs to hear our voices, not just each other.

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