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Are frugal people ruining the economy?

Posted Nov 19 2008, 07:41 PM by Karen Datko
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People who watch their spending are taking heat in some quarters for helping to wreck the economy.

The argument goes like this: Our refusal to buy every little thing we want or eat out for every meal is causing a tidal wave throughout the business world, hurting retailers, suppliers and manufacturers, who are then forced to lay people off.

"Vh" at Funny about Money summarizes the theory this way in a post called "Is frugality un-American?":

So it is that seedy characters like you and me, eccentrics who subscribe to the wacky theory that we should spend no more than we earn, refrain from buying every piece of junk set under our noses, and maybe even put some of what we earn into savings, are responsible for bringing this country to the brink of depression.

We're not making this up. For instance, The Shark Investor addresses PF bloggers in a post called "How your saving advice caused the financial crisis." It's a stretch -- his subject, "Joe," decides to live in a van because PF bloggers said mortgages are "bad." Actually, we hope this is satire.

We concur with vh's thinking -- that if people understood how to manage their finances and live within their means, the following wouldn't have happened:

"Nope," vh says. "We ants are not responsible for the collapse of the economy, nor are we the ones who are digging its grave. The grasshoppers did it. The grasshoppers and all the greedy little critters who got rich off them."

Comments

 

Yes, I agree.  The people who were out of control spending and the greedy executives are responsible for this mess.  

Those living within their means do not have homes in foreclosure nor do they owe any creditors any money.  

I see this differently, if  products were made in the US, then yes, my lack of spending would slow the economy. If I were to truely increase my spending today, I would most likely be buying a foreign made product. Most of this money would be sent outside the US and little will be benefited here at home.

If I were to buy a house above market value, I would be hurting the economy.

If I were to invest in an over valued stock, I would be hurting the economy.

The fact that I spend and save my money wisely, does not hurt the economy.

I save my money then pay cash. I bought my last truck brand new. You save a lot of money and get treated better. Most people borrow money with no intentions of paying it back. They say "You gave it to me". No wonder this the USA in a mess. Where do they come up with that stuff? Do they teach it in schools? It is not easy being honest while those around you rip off the system, banks and creditors. Watching people on diability unload trucks full of fire wood and brag they have not worked in 30 years. I prefer to be honest and pay as I go and hope God let's me in the back row of Heaven.

The current economy is a result of the credit/leverage bubble bursting... not because people are being frugal all of a sudden. And actually, this is a great time for people who saved up money during the boom because there are some great shopping deals out there right now.

I love how car executives fly to WA DC to ask for money VIA PRIVATE PLANES!  Alan Mulalley, CEO of Ford, flies home in his private jet every weekend to Seattle from Detroit and was paid 28 million last year in salary!  The excesses of the modern world have come home to roost.  Frugality went out the window with my Dad's generation...he still keeps a home humidifier going that was purchased from Sears in 1967 when I was in 4th grade!  And I am 51 now!  Sam Walton of Wal-Mart fame used to drive around in the same old truck he had driven for 25 years...I'll bet he didn't have a private plane!  We have to all slow down and take care of what we have, be happy with what we have and be grateful for what we have.

People who save money would actually be helping the economy, especially now. Savers are not saving money in their mattresses; they would be saving in (probably the safest investment at this point) those things called banks. Remember?... those collapsing financial institutions that have to borrow $700B from our government. Additionally, the more saved the lower the interest rate becomes (eventually), enticing increased borrowing for future investment spawing economic growth. The more we have in our (US) banks the less we need to borrow from foreign banks and the less we need to pay on interest to foreign countries.

Frugal people actually have money to spend! How does that hurt the economy? Frugal people have mortgages they can afford and are not swimming in credit card debt. How does that hurt the economy? The ones hurting the economy borrow money they can't repay and that hurts the rest of us. Frugal people, let's keep on keepin' on!

Frugal equals responsible. With all of the irresponsible behavior causing so much distress around the world, I'll remain frugally responsible. Thank you very much.

Problem easily solved.  Manufacture something, or provide a service, that Highly Disciplined/ Non-Impulsive Little Me actually wants-- at a price that makes sense to me-- and I'll buy it.  Provide inessential services or manufacture silly things, or sell your product/ service too expensively, and I won't buy it.

Meanwhile, IMHO the economy exists to serve me-- I don't exist to serve the economy.  The large majority will always be able to find employment-- just as they did during the Great Depression.  We're not Zimbabwe, and we won't be... but if you think it's going to get THAT bad then keep your passport, resume, and skills current: it's a big world.

For years I have been working to save my 20% down only to have realestate triple and my income go nowhere.  Now I know I am not crazy and that my math fundamentals were sound.

I pray people are not so ignorant nor simplistic to try to blame this on republicans or the Bush administration.  Just FYI, he tried to warn congress(pelosi,reid,barney Frank) about this easy credit and impending disaster a few years back... Unfortunately, there has been an internal sector of people who have wanted the US to fail.  Just like a whiny child, they now have their wish.... Alot of jealousy from other countries as well as internal ones have also brought us to this place.  The radical left has gotten us here--so far away from fundamental principles which are not just monetary in nature.  They've tried to make our nation too much like others instead of embracing our strengths and differences--the very thing they preach about regarding "diversity".  Now we will have an unchecked big brother running us come 2009.  

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