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Talking to a child about foreclosure

Posted Oct 17 2008, 11:09 AM by Karen Datko
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This post comes from Trent Hamm at partner blog The Simple Dollar.

I received a heart-wrenching e-mail from a reader I'm going to call "Peggy." Here are a few excerpts from that e-mail:

In short, we are going to have to be out of our house by Oct. 24. We're going to move in with (her brother) and his family for a while and then later try to find a place to rent.

We made bad money mistakes and we know what we did wrong. We should have never bought our house. We should have never got that mortgage. We just tried to make the best life possible for (their 8-year-old son).

So here's my problem: We haven't told (the son) about this yet. We don't know what to tell him or where to even start. This is the only home he remembers living in.

My mother thinks we shouldn't tell him anything. We should just say we're moving to a new place and we're going to live with (his uncle) for a while.

But (he's) smarter than that. He knows there is something going on and he won't fall for it.

What should I tell him?

This e-mail (which I edited to protect the family's privacy) was the most painful I've read since I started writing The Simple Dollar. I look at my almost 3-year-old son and I can't imagine having to explain to him in a few years why we have to move out of the house he's grown up in.

Needless to say, over the last few days I've spent a ton of time thinking about Peggy's situation. It's the first reader e-mail I've brought up with my friends, and I also mentioned it on Twitter to try to get more angles and perspectives on it.

My first reaction was to agree with Peggy's mother and encourage Peggy to simply not talk about it. It's a very frightening time when you're losing your home. I can't imagine explaining it to a child. You're in some ways ripping away one of his or her basic elements of security in the world.

Some further reflection brought me to a different conclusion. My thoughts actually began to turn around when I was taking my son to day care. We stopped at a gas station on the way because gas was clear down to $2.89 and I wanted to fill up my tank.

I told him we were going to stop at the gas station, and he asked if we needed gas. I told him that we didn't, but that I wanted to get gas now because it was really cheap, and that way we could have more money left over to buy other things. He immediately shouted, "So we can buy more pizza with wheels!" (His favorite food is a plain cheese pizza with black olives on it -- pizza with wheels.)

My son, who is almost 3, understood the basic idea of budgeting: Sometimes you need to spend less on some things so that you can afford other things. In the end, that's the basic reason why one would lose a house to foreclosure. Conceptually, an 8-year-old should be able to understand it.

I asked a few people I know who are parents of children between the ages of 7 and 9 how they would handle it, and almost all of them provided passionate arguments on behalf of candor with the child, confirming my idea that candor is really the best approach here. To a certain point, of course.

If I were in Peggy's shoes, here's what I would do:

I'd spend a lot of quality time with my child right now. You'll need a strong bond with your child to make this go smoothly. Why? Your child needs emotional touchstones, and you need to make yourself the strongest touchstone you can be so that the transition is easier. It's likely that your child sees your current home as a touchstone, and it'll be very hard for your child to leave it, so you need to provide another rock for your child to lean on.

Spend some evenings at the park or out and about in the community doing things together, just you and your family. You can spend some evenings at home, of course, but don't spend all of them there. Try to cement that bond with your child independent of location.

I'd cement the concept of a home as something you buy and sell. Point out other houses for sale and explain that people are trying to sell them. If you see a "sold" sign, point out that someone has bought that house from someone else who was trying to sell it.

This firms up the idea that it's normal for people to buy and sell their houses. Be candid about it and answer the questions your child might have. Given Peggy's timeframe, I'd try to do this several times in the next few days.

I'd use some candor to explain the situation to the child. Simply tell the child that the family needs to live in a smaller house because the house it lives in now is too expensive. The family doesn't have enough money to keep paying for the house. Do it in a caring way -- a serious talk, but without anger or other strong emotion.

Your child is going to have questions. Answer them as simply as you can. You don't have to get into the nuances of ARMs. Just say that the family was able to make little payments on the house at first, but now the payments are bigger and it has to choose between things to spend money on. My 2-year-old could largely understand this, and several other parents have assured me that their 7-, 8- and 9-year-olds could get it, too.

Finally, make the experience seem as fun as you can. Get your child involved in packing things up. Take pictures of box contents together for easier unpacking. Be there for your child if your child has a hard time. He or she might or might not get upset during the process.

The most important thing is to be there for your child. You are that child's constant through this difficult time of change. Take that very seriously, because your child will need that emotional safety.

Other articles of interest at The Simple Dollar:

How to plan ahead for next week's meals (and save significant money)

The power of the chaperone

10 steps for remaining calm in a financially turbulent time

Comments

 

In December 2006, I lost my job and with only one income coming in and three kids, my husband and I ended up losing our home which we had been in for 10 years.  That home was the only home our 10 year old and 6 year old twins knew of.  At first we were hesitant to tell them that we had to move, but we sucked it up and told them that we were moving in with my mother for a while until we can find a bigger place to live.  They really did not ask too many questions but told others that we were moving in with their Nana so we can save up to buy a bigger house.  The little money we had saved was exhausted during the 5 months I was out of work.  We had a huge yard sale and we involved the kids in the yard sale and in the move.  They were actually excited about moving with Nana even though we were going to be a little crowed, they just looked at the big picture of eventually moving again in a bigger house.  We are now in the process of doing a lease purchase on a house which is three times bigger than the one we had; which is a good thing to do now instead of buying.  Our kids were okay with the move, but we do think our 10 year old knew what was going on she just never said anything and they all have been very cooperative and now are excited about moving into a new house.

Thank you so much for this article and the great advice.  We are in the early stages of foreclosure and have a very bright 4 year old who has basically spent her whole life so far in this house.  No that we've come to terms with the fact that we are going to be moving and stopped working so many endless hours trying to make extra money to try and hold on to our home, we are in deed concentrating on spending alot of quality time together as a family.  The best advice you gave was to try and get your little one involved in things and portray it as an exciting adventure.  Thanks.

We have 2 kids 12 and 15 years old. We have always talked about politics and money. We just lost our house and it was tough. But if it was not for our kids it would have been worse. With them knowing everything they helped pack and got involved in finding a place to rent. We lived in that house for 10 years and had good jobs. I was laid off and we lived on one income for 6 months. Our kids have seen our mistakes and I hope they learn how to avoid them. That is why we talk to them about everything that is goiing on with the world today.

It has been almost 8 years since we lost our home.  We were self-employed and our company took some major losses due to the 911 tragedy. Our son was 7 years old at that time and had only known that one home and that one neighborhood and was very attached to all of the neighborhood kids.  We knew in our hearts that this would be very difficult for him.  We sat him down and told him exactly what was going on and that we were moving into another home to rent not far away but it was only temporary.  He would still go to the same school and have the same friends.  We had to make cutbacks but we choose to cutback on things that we(me and my husband) did for enjoyment like getting my nails done and for my husband he stopped golfing so much.  We feel that we did what was right for our son.  When you ask him today about what happened, his response is home is about a family not a house.  Be truthful to your children, it will make them so much stronger later in life in will teach them that material things don't matter most.  But strong family ties does.  This to will pass.  Keep looking forward and don't look back.  Say alot of prayers and put your faith in God and he will work it out.  He did for us.

My family never lost a house to foreclosure but we moved 8 times during the years I was growing up. I agree about telling the boy the truth in simple terms. If the brother's home is nearby, it is important that the boy see the home and the room where he will be soon sleeping. He should also see the school which he will be attending. They might even make a plan for a visit with the boy's current best friend for Christmas vacation or some other time after the move. It is so much easier for a child to make a move if the child can picture the new situation and isn't going into a total unknown.

This is a great article. We have 3 children. My wife and I wife are Pastors. Just recently, we both were laid-off. Since we both worked at the same church, we are living on savings, however we are looking for jobs (both secular and church). Because of what we do we have moved 5 times during our children's  lifetime - oldest age 11, middle age 7, and youngest age 5. Each time we have sold and purchased a home. At times we have rented a house during the transition. And yes. Don't lie to yourself. It is hard on children. Especially if you are going to another city to start all over again. However, keep them involved. Maybe not very nichel and dime, but they do understand when mom and dad are trying to save money for a reason.

I grew up in the 70s.  My mother had emotional problems and plowed through our family's money to satisfy a drug habit.  After her death, my father discovered what she had done.  While we did not lose our home, money was tight as my father recovered and tried to rebuild from what she had done.  We were told in simple terms what had happened, including the fact that purchases outside of necessities (food, basic clothing, etc) were out of the question.  Kids need to understand early what happens to money in the world, in their families and in their own hands, and that we are not entitled to have every whim/want immediately satisfied.  This incident taught me to value money and to keep out of debt, weigh the consequences of purchasing decisions, save for difficult/unforseen financial circumstances, etc. as an adult.  As parents, you have a wonderful opportunity to teach your kids life skills that will serve them well as you deal with difficult circumstances now.

When I was around the age this child is now my newly singled mother had to move our family into her mother's home. Being young and not really having any expectations children will accept these things as normal if you act as if they are. I think any kind of over explanation could scare a child who isn't use to so much discussion about specific topics which are over their age awareness. Their lives change much more frequently then ours do. Schools, fiends, clothes, height, privileges, responsibilities are in constant flux. They deal with it much better than we do.

When I was growing up, we had very little money.  We weren't poor, but there was very little excess money for extras.  My mother & father were always open with me about our financial state, explaiining that they couldn't afford the "bells & whistles" that some of the more well-off friends and family members had.

That honesty and openness gave me a perspective about material things, and taught me that working for things that you want or need is a good thing.

I feel that honesty about a bad situation is very important in a child's development.  Of course, one needs to consider the child's age and maturity level, and use this as a guide for determining how much information to share with the child.

Great tips. You are not protecting children by not telling them. They are not stupid. (Why don't people remember how annoying it was that adults treat you like you are idiots?) In my opinion, adults are doing so to protect their own feelings.

My parents lost our luxury 5 million dollar home 10 years ago. They kept it from my then 6-year-old brother, moved to a smaller rental. Sent my grandparents off to live with my uncles and aunts.

The problem is that their attitude changed. They used to buy anything my baby brother wants. After the incident, he can't buy anything. He didn't understand why he was punished. They also became very pushy with his schooling. Forcing him to choose career path that guarantee money (law, medicine). He resent that and often avoid contacts.

I'm 12 year older, so they couldn't hide it from me. Since I'm very conservative about money, I saved up all the money they gave me and had enough to graduate from college. They kept saying it is not their fault, it was all because of Asian Economic Crisis. Now that I'm preparing to buy my first home, I realized that it is their fault! They bought a home that is 12 times their annual income! It is a great money lesson for me. I'm going to buy a home that is only 2.5-3 times my annual income.

Anyway, I think that they should have explained to my baby brother what had happened, and shouldn't change their attitude towards him. Make him feel safe and tell him how grateful they are to have him. In the past 10 years, they just act like we kids are money draining burden.

Do let your kids know about your whole come back plan. Tell them what you have to sacrifice and what you can still do, or what you can do instead. e.g. No vacation to Disneyland in the near future, but you can go fly kites every week instead!

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