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What line would you cross to make -- or save -- a buck?

Posted Sep 15 2008, 02:32 PM by Karen Datko
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David at MoneyNing asked his reader this question: "Would you do something immoral to increase your wealth if you won't get caught?" (It boosts our faith in humanity that in a poll at his site, a healthy 67% chose "No!")

But how often do people cross a line? Case in point: "Miss Thrifty" wasn't injured in a four-car pileup that dinged her fabulous Thriftymobile. (She wasn't at fault.) But everyone she knew, including her mother, told her to file a whiplash claim. "Everyone does it," they said.

She refused.

But, as our friend Harvey loves to say, no good deed goes unpunished. The occupants of an SUV -- who were also unharmed and whose vehicle wasn't even scratched -- didn't have the same morals. "The impeccably groomed daughter from the fancy SUV, whose mother had driven off with nary a pause, had -- you guessed it -- filed a personal-injury claim. For whiplash," Miss Thrifty wrote.

Miss T ended up filling out mounds of forms and her premiums were raised just because a claim had been filed. She was eventually cleared (and ended up changing companies to get a better rate after shopping around). The same apparently happened to the third driver, who also wasn't at fault.

David's example in his post, called "When saving money goes against your morals," was a friend of his who calls customer service at an unidentified company whenever she has a complaint because she knows they'll give her a 15% discount.

Does this cross the line? Reader "Shadox" said yes. The woman is raising the company's costs with frivolous complaints, and those costs will be spread among other customers. The person in charge of providing the service to her may also get in trouble for no good reason, Shadox said.

Reader Danielle said calling to get the discount is OK. She wrote, "I always find out, while complaining, that there is a better deal on Internet connection, or even a free iPod. Trust me, no one will give you a 15% discount if it isn't allowed."

Reader "Compare CD Rates" disagreed, writing, "If the 'bad' service wouldn't have otherwise warranted a call, then it probably would have been better to not call."

Comments

 

Thanks for the link! I must admit, I was surprised that so many people told me to claim for whiplash - I don't think the payouts are even that large, so it's an awful lot of trouble to create for yourself others, for a relatively small return. And anyway, it's the principle, isn't it?

You wouldn't believe the things people will come up with to get money they "deserve" from big companies over frivolous claims! I work in a defense law firm and it disgusts me when I see some cases because it's just another example of people's sense of entitlement. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the companies are always right, but wasting time on pointless cases filed by idiots takes away from the people who really have been wronged and are looking for it to be made right again!

It all comes down to this:  We have to live with the decisions we make.  Sometimes we can lie convincingly to others, but we can't fool ourselves.  

I admit I am one of those people that do not hesitate to complain to companies.  Not to get a discount, but to point out either bad service or even something illegal.  I've actually been charged extra at food establishments when I use my debit card.  Fortunately I monitor my account on-line weekly and was able to correct it through my bank, but I also called those establishments and complained.  In each case I was offered free meals and in each case I declined and have never patronized those places again.    They lose more money on loss of business than giving a 15% discount.  

I was in a car crash in 2006 (not my fault) my car ended up being totaled and fortunately i suffered no major injuries.  The problem came in when I tried to get another car to replace the one I lost  (I was given this time window of a couple of days and all I kept hearing was time on the rental will run out soon) and my insurance company paid me telling me that they were going to subrogate the claim with the other company to get their money back and they never did so now it looks like I have a claim on my insurance even though i was not at fault.  NEVER NEVER use NATIONWIDE.  Needless to say my insurance is now  with another company. So even when you try to be honest look what happens

What goes around comes around!!!

I have been in the situation where I backed into a car in the parking lot of a resturant at Night. Nobody saw me and I could have driven away. I also had my teenage children with me and knew this was a good lesson in action. I parked the car, went inside and had the hostess find the driver. Ended up only costing me $750.00 out of pocket. But to tell the truth, even if my kids hadn't been there I would have done the same thing.

Almost the same thing happened to my husband as happened to Miss Thrifty. He rear-ended another car. The car probably had a few hundred dollars worth of damage but was driveable and the driver was laughing and joking at the scene. The driver then claimed to his insurance company that his car and my husband's car were both undriveable and that he had serious injuries from the accident. My husband's insurance rate skyrocketed, of course, because he was at fault. He tried to get the insurance company to investigate the claim, seeing as how he was still driving his car around (not even a scratch on his car), but they wouldn't. He's now on my insurance and we've got a way better rate. :) It's crazy what people will do for money.

I think this is a great topic to address; it sort of reminds me of the sneaking-candy-into-the-movie-theater debate, only with higher stakes. It ultimately boils down to WHY one is looking to save a buck. "Because I deserve it" and "Because I want to be responsible for myself" tend to produce (or reflect) two different kinds of people. The driver of the SUV, especially in these times, is likely not facing a night without dinner for want of food. Instead of thanking her lucky stars/higher power, she cashed in. Beth (to use you as an example), on the other hand, could have easily gotten away with backing into that car and never have spoken about it again, but decided to own up to it. I suspect that, if both of these women complained to a company, the former would do so for the discount only and the latter for poor service or product, perhaps wanting a discount for the trouble.

No good deed goes unpunished, but karma is a...

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