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Doing without in your 20s -- by choice

Posted Aug 27 2008, 12:28 PM by Donna Freedman
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It's tough to be frugal in your 20s, according to a Smart Spending message board reader posting as "byebyestudentloans." Your peers seem to spend most of their time in malls, restaurants and nightclubs. And you?

"I'm brown-bagging my lunch, limiting my driving, work a full-time and part-time job," says the reader, who contributes to a 401(k) and has two other financial goals: pay off student loans and save to build a home. And all in the next two years.

That's a lot to accomplish, and burnout is a very real possibility. That's why byebyestudentloans was looking for support from other message board readers. "I know that at some point, I'm going to get very frustrated, but I need to keep myself motivated. … Any thoughts or suggestions to keep myself on track?"

A number of readers, some of whom are also in their 20s, came through with advice that echoed my own thoughts: A person is responsible only for his own choices, rather than what everyone else does, and as such should not be swayed by other people's opinions about frugality. Five or 10 years from now, those free-spenders will be wishing they'd been half as cautious with their funds.

Spreadsheet or cash only?
The first step to saving is to understand your spending. Track all expenses, develop a budget and stick to it no matter what, advises "Jimmy281," who bought his first house at 24 and put every penny he earned toward the mortgage and paying down debt. Now he's 28 and married; the college loans have been repaid, they own two cars outright (one new, one used), and they live below their means and thus accrue no consumer debt. They're saving for a 20% down payment on a bigger place, to be bought within two years.

He and his wife track every expense, even those under a dollar, on a spreadsheet. This may seem hard but it becomes second nature, Jimmy says, and is a good way "to keep a close eye on your spending/money and to develop good habits."

"Bluebrd13," another 20-something, watches those day-to-day dollars too. The reader uses a rewards credit card and each week adds up money spent, then transfers that amount into an online account set up solely for credit card payments. This ensures payment in full each month and also "keeps me more aware" of spending patterns, Bluebrd says.

A cash-only system works for "Lucy650." She allows herself $100 every two weeks for fun money, and "after the cash is gone, I stop spending."

Fun money can be for whatever you want. For reader "Lehughe2," fun is eating out once a week as "a break from cooking and packing lunches," while keeping a bigger goal in mind: saving for a down payment on a home.

A frugal night out
Frugality does not mean never having any fun, readers note. Boredom and frustration can lead to overspending. Instead, frugalists should find ways to socialize on a budget.

For reader "Fencing Foil," age 26, that means things like poker night (with chips, not cash), potluck barbecues, exercise sessions and any free event in the area. Game nights (look for board games in thrift stores), book clubs, themed potlucks and even fondue parties are big hits with other readers.

Having people over doesn't have to cost a lot. You can do what "TheBlackDrop" does: Serve whatever beer is in the fridge and make snacks from what's at hand. For her, entertaining at home is better "than sitting in a noisy bar, not having any sort of decent conversation because you can't hear each other, spending a ton of money and then having to drive home afterward."

And if you do want to go to a noisy bar? Go ahead -- but stay within your budget. "I've spent many fun nights out with friends (at) bars and clubs just drinking water," says reader "Degas Fan," who points out that if you don't booze it up, you don't have to pay for a taxi.

"Family in Portland" also drinks water or diet soda when out with friends, and orders the cheaper appetizers -- and a separate check. "I have been (shafted) by 'Let's split it evenly' at the end of the night when I spent less than $10 and they spent $50."

Cheap food and drink can be had at happy hours, and "Laughing in Indy" notes that some chain restaurants have special deals or discounts for repeat customers. She's gotten $10 discounts, free food and even a free bottle of wine for an anniversary. Indy and her husband also hit the free wine or beer tastings at local wineries and "nicer" liquor stores.

Finding inexpensive ways to socialize is important, according to Bluebrd13; otherwise, longtime pals might feel rejected. This reader's weekly coffee date with friends is an affordable alternative to "a downtown club or a movie or something you can't afford."

Here are a few links about alternatives to traditional socializing:

•    "5 ways to dodge peer pressure to spend," from partner blog Wise Bread.
•    "Friends and money: coping with social spending situations," from partner blog Get Rich Slowly.
•    "Is frugality an either/or?" from I Pick Up Pennies. (Full disclosure: This site is run by my daughter, an occasional contributor to Smart Spending.)

Staying motivated to stay the course
Reader "Great Arm" suggests setting short- as well as long-term financial goals. Big-picture dreams like homeownership or paying off student loans "seem so hazy and far away." Short-term goals keep Great Arm motivated during the "slow but sure" progress on major life goals.

Those short-term goals are encouraging during temporary financial setbacks, according to "Library Goddess." Her summer of weddings cost way more than expected (gifts, travel, throwing a shower) and this fall she's going back to school (fees, books, the part of tuition not covered by her employer).

But instead of being discouraged, she's focusing on the fact that her emergency fund is "finally halfway to goal, after a two-year struggle to get it there." Like Great Arm, she believes in celebrating smaller accomplishments while plugging away at big-ticket dreams.

Object lessons
Those larger goals are well worth the sacrifice, according to "rich daughter." Yes, it was hard for her to "see my friends and siblings taking trips and driving fancy cars, having the latest technology" while she lived a pared-down lifestyle. But it paid off: At age 25, she's about to move into her first home.

"I don't make a lot of money," the reader says. "I am just careful with the money I have."

Jimmy281 notes that friends who spend are creating two sets of problems: debt plus a "spending mindset" that will keep debts coming. TheBlackDrop writes of acquaintances who buy designer handbags, luxury cars and other items but who "get very quiet" when topics like down payments or retirement come up.

Object lessons like these can offset the teasing of friends who think you're "cheap" -- friends who think that debt is not only normal, but inevitable, and that you're cheating yourself by staying on a budget.

Byebyestudentloans, I hope you can stay true to your goals. Picture your debt-free future. Picture your secure retirement. Most of all, picture yourself two years down the road, inviting all those spendthrifts to your housewarming party.

Comments

 

I like all the advise, I wish I had this when I was in my early 20s.

I saved like mad in my 20's.  Really being frugal is cool in your 20's, no one expects much from you in terms of gifts, especially when you are in college or just started in your career.  I'm 34 now and it has paid off.  I take nice trips now because I have the means and opportunities to travel inexpensively, even with my children, are abudant in my life.  I think I would have been very sad indeed if I hadn't saved money then to enjoy these opportunities now.  The other great think about forcing frugality in your 20's is that so many things become automatic and habital.  Even though we can afford nice new things, I love shopping at thrift stores to find the great deals....for example, today I found 50 cent Lily Pulitizer capris for my daughter with the tags still on them!  I also made homemade bread, which is very time efficent because I am so well praticed and have a batch of homemade applesauce in the crockpot right now from the apple tree in our yard.  The rewards of delayed gratification and thrift have no limit.

I went all out on saving from when I was 25 about nine months after I started my first gig and realized that spending everything I earned on gadgets and computers was not going to do me any good in the long run. Since anything worth doing is worth doing to excess, I was pushing savings rates of 80% of my net income. I became financially independent when I was 30! It's not hard when FI is a top priority, but the average person would rather spend 30 or 40 years working and filling his house with stuff while saving the minimum amount possible (typically 0%).

I wish I would have seen the light 10 years earlier, but I spent nearly 100k that I could have saved and have nothing to show for it, except some (not much - about 13k, paid off in about two years) debt. At least I've now changed my ways, hopefully for ever.

This has been pretty inspiring to me.  I'm a 25 year old single mom who is trying to get out of the spending habit and into the saving habit.  So far, so good, I just bought my first home, and I have a small college fund set up for my son.

Socializing on a budget has been the most difficult thing for me because my friends don't want to do anything but hang out in bars.  A night on the town is even more expensive for me now than it was before I got pregnant, because now I have to hire a babysitter.  

At the same time, its been easy for me to avoid that scene, because its much harder to spend every weekend in a bar when you have an infant at home.  I miss my old friends, but I recognize that we've moved into different places in our lives, and that it might be time to move on to different friends, so thats been my focus.  I have joined a few free moms groups, which provide me with a few social outings a month which I can also bring my son to (which saves me babysitting costs), and is about all the socializing I do these days.  

In a couple of months, I'm looking forward to the first big party I've thrown since that time my mom went out of town for the weekend when I was 18; my sons first birthday party.  Its going to be a gift free, pot luck party, to save money for myself and my guests.  Hurrah!

This was a really inspiring post for me. I am 24 and recently married, I also just started my first graduate job after finishing 6 years of study. At the moment my husband and I are trying to save as much as possible for a down payment on our first home.

My biggest problem is that I often foget temporarily what our goals are whenever I see a dress I'd like, am bored on the weekend and suggest going out for a meal, even when I feel lazy of an evening and don't want to make dinner or pack lunches for the next day. The goals we are saving for are all 'long term' - at least a year or two off. I find the best way to not lose sight is to have some smaller short term goals that reward you for good financial practice every few months.

For example, we recently saved up a reasonably small amount (compared to the $100k we want for our deposit) to buy a super duper new camera. At the end of the year we are also planning a small trip away that will be $2k. These goals don't really dent our major savings goals too much but they do give us something to look forward to in the short term and help us keep the big goals in sight.

Donna

The more we can teach our youth about frugality, responsibility, and keeping debt to a minimum, the better.

Great book called "Nobody Wants your Child", by Milton Creagh, brings to the attention how we as parents are not doing kids any favors by paying for everything and taking care of all problems. In fact, we are doing them great harm.

Excellent post here!

TS, Smile-Therapy.com

I have always loved the expression: Live simply so others can simply live.

I honestly feel happy with all that I have- my current clothing, my '96 Saturn, my brown-bag lunches- and that satisfaction prevents me from needing to go out and spend.

I am 26 and am addicted to a good deal and bargains. My co-workers (also in their 20s) and I have contests at work to see who can get the highest savings percentage from grocery receipts. Make it fun and it will become easy.

www.funandfrugal20s.com

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