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Why I argued (politely) to save three bucks

Posted Aug 04 2008, 03:06 AM by Donna Freedman
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On Friday I visited Office Depot for school backpacks at the killer price of $2.99. Along with other loss-leader school supplies, they'll be donated to a local social services agency. At the checkout, I handed over a "20% off all backpacks" coupon from an Office Depot mailer. The cash register wouldn't accept the coupon. "These are already on sale so the coupon won't work," the salesclerk said.

I noted, politely, that the coupon did not say "not good on sale-priced items." The cashier tried again. No dice. "It's not letting it go through," she said, and waited. I got the distinct impression she wanted me to say, "Oh, that's OK." But I wasn't going to say that, because my belief is that a store should honor its published offers.

She called a manager, who told me the coupon wasn't intended for sale items. I again pointed out that nowhere on the coupon did it say that. This started off a 10-minute dance between manager and consumer over what would have been a $3 discount.

Before you write me off as an intractable miser, consider this: What happens when consumers do not insist that businesses keep their word?

All kinds of reasons
During our little discount minuet, the manager demanded to see the mailer from which I'd taken the ad, saying it would explain that the coupon was not good on sale items. I went out to my car and got the ad; it said no such thing.

The manager, whom I'll call Nancy, tried several other tacks. She pored over the fine print in the store's weekly ad -- complaining it was hard to read because the doctor had dilated her eyes that morning -- but nothing in the ad excluded coupons. She said that "corporate" never intended for coupons to be used with sale items, and that's why the computer wouldn't allow it -- the computer is programmed by "corporate."

If that's the case, I suggested, then "not valid with sale items" ought to be written on the coupon.

She looked at it again, noting the phrase "we reserve the right to limit quantities." I'd bought five, the limit noted in the weekly flier. Nancy said, "I'll give you the coupon on one of them." I replied that nowhere on the coupon does it say that it was good for just one item.

"It says 'one-time use', so I'll let you have it for just the one." I suggested that "one-time use" might actually mean that I couldn't use the coupon again the next day.

Nancy said that when I signed up for the store rewards program, I would have gotten an e-mail explaining, among other things, why coupons couldn't be used on sale items. I repeated, "Shouldn't that be written on the coupon itself?"

A real headache
The manager said she'd send my "information" to corporate headquarters and have them explain why coupons can't be used on sale items. First she asked for my driver's license, which I would not have given, and then decided that just my rewards card would do. She wrote down the card number and told me that at $2.99, the store was losing money on the backpacks. Using a coupon made it worse.

I replied that I was familiar with the concept of a loss leader. You lose money on some items to get people into the store.

Finally the manager told the cashier to override the register and ring up the discount for all five backpacks. "I don't want to spend any more time on this. I have a headache," she said.

You and me both, Nancy. Confrontation is not easy for me. I simply wanted Office Depot to make good on its published promise.

Why you should care
Some of you are probably thinking, It's only $3 -- give it up, already. I don't think that the amount matters. The company mailed me a flier full of discounts in the hope I would come to one of its stores. When I tried to use one of those discounts, employees decided that it shouldn't apply to sales.

Suppose you saw a coupon good for 20% off all winter coats, but when you get to the store you're told, "Oh, it's not good on red coats." Or imagine seeing a car ad, "20% off all Chevrolets," but when you get to the dealership you're told that it's only good on four-door sedans.

There's a term for this. It's called bait and switch. Get the customer into the store and then change the terms.

What happened at Office Depot was not a bait and switch per se, but it still wasn't good customer relations. Yes, I understand that the company is taking a hit pricing its backpacks at $2.99 and that an additional 60-cent discount hurts even more. But that's a cost of doing business: Advertise something really cheaply and hope people buy enough other things to make the loss leader worthwhile.

Certainly any company is within its rights to limit coupon use on loss leaders. But if that's what corporate wants, then corporate needs to be very clear, and it needs to do so on the coupon. I don't want to rely on the personal interpretation of a cash register. Or a manager with a headache.

Comments

 

I have no problem standind up for myself and what I believe in. I closely watch sales ads and receipts to make sure all rings up correctly. I went Xmas shopping one year and the sign posted indicated an additional percentage off. The item I intended to purchase was right below the sign. The clerk did not want to give me the extra percentage off. I showed her the sign and she said it did not apply. I insisted that was false advertising and the sign should be removed if it was not so. I went so far as to offer to remove it. I DID get my discount and the sign remained up. Walmart supercenters regularly have items that do not ring up correct so consumers have to stay on top of their game here. Think about it, take that error times a few hundred and it does add up. Very rarely does an item ring up for less.

I once stopped in a McDonalds drive thru before work and got halfway to work before I opened my meal to find that it was incorrect.  I got to my office and called and talked to the Mgr. she asked that I bring it back. I told her that I was already at work and would not come back until tomorrow.  I refrigerated the sandwhich. I stopped by the next morning with the  sandwhich. My child that was with me wanted to go to the restroom. When we got back a 20+ year old employee was standing there berating the fact in a loud voice that someone would take the time to bring a sandwhich back. I stood and listened to her for a few minutes and then I advised her that I was the one who had brought the food back. I told her that if she didn't understand the principal then she would always work for McDonalds. I left with my refund and applause from the other customers.

It is pretty clear from your article that you have never worked in a retail environment.  

I work in retail and have been there.  although some customers try to get something for nothing, others, like the consumer above,  have it right.

another prime example of Gotcha Capitalism.  When I learn of examples such as these, I TELL EVERYONE.  Word-of-mouth advertising is powerful, and no measure of marketing will properly re-spin a sullied reputaion of sour saleship.

Anytime I anticipate foul saleship at transaction, I make sure to have several other regular priced items with me.  I'll do my intended transaction first, keeping it separate as leverage in case of bait&switch.  Sales personnel are more apt to accept making the sale happen, regardless of policy, if they presume other profitable items will be sold next.  I'm not obligated to purchase the other items, so usually leave them behind while departing with my intended purchase.

"It is pretty clear from your article that you have never worked in a retail environment. "

Actually it seems that many people who are now currently or in the past have been retail managers are supporting her to a point.  Like myself.  The coupon was wrong and without a disclaimer she was correct.  The manager needed to make sure the coupon was valid, which could have taken a few minutes then got Donna on her way.  After that the manager needed to inform upper management so that the company could put up a disclaimer in all stores to avoid the issue.

I suspect if any of us went into Office Depot we would have found the same issue on Sat.   Unless as i earlier posted that the weekly ad had an exclusion on it.  I suspect that it had to have since otherwise someone in the ad department should be losing their job for not proofing the ad or teh coupon correctly.

Yippee for you!  My family thinks I'm a embarassment when I do such things.  And have had to often.  It's a sense of keeping business "honest".  I once had a problem with a buy one get one free offer and after I told the manager I made exactly per hour as the free item I figured I had an entire hour to argue my point.  They gave me both items free to get me out of the store.   You've got to keep an eye on big business and help to keep them honest for those that won't stick up for themselves.

If I were behind you in line, I would have stood up for you, since to do otherwise is cowardice. You are so right. The corporation made the coupon. The corporation set the price on the backpacks. The employees of the corporation need to follow simply the instructions written on the coupon. How easy is that? Retail clerks and that kind of unskilled management are simply not in the position to do otherwise, as that would require thought. Blame the public schools. The corporation does not ask for thought, nor do they expect muchof these low-level employees. Retail workers simply do not have the information or skill to do that. This is where we end up in America.

this reminds me of somthing that happened to me 20 years ago a store named levins had a  slogan .YOULL GET A CHARGE OUT OF LEVINS!!! .i tried get an account to buy a tv ,the salesman would not approve my credit ,i pointed out that in that case their slogan was false adverttising .i did not get a tv but a week later the slogan that they used for many years was gone , i still wonder?????

The other side of the coin is that trying to "stack" a coupon on an item already on sale is trying to get something for nothing. Seriously, does anyone believe that stores are in business as a public service? Look closely, and you'll see there is always a disclaimer on the coupon or in the store converning sale merchanides that restricts the coupon from use on sale items. And no, $3 is not worth haggling over. Haggling is disgusting enough as it is.

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