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Why I argued (politely) to save three bucks

Posted Aug 04 2008, 03:06 AM by Donna Freedman
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On Friday I visited Office Depot for school backpacks at the killer price of $2.99. Along with other loss-leader school supplies, they'll be donated to a local social services agency. At the checkout, I handed over a "20% off all backpacks" coupon from an Office Depot mailer. The cash register wouldn't accept the coupon. "These are already on sale so the coupon won't work," the salesclerk said.

I noted, politely, that the coupon did not say "not good on sale-priced items." The cashier tried again. No dice. "It's not letting it go through," she said, and waited. I got the distinct impression she wanted me to say, "Oh, that's OK." But I wasn't going to say that, because my belief is that a store should honor its published offers.

She called a manager, who told me the coupon wasn't intended for sale items. I again pointed out that nowhere on the coupon did it say that. This started off a 10-minute dance between manager and consumer over what would have been a $3 discount.

Before you write me off as an intractable miser, consider this: What happens when consumers do not insist that businesses keep their word?

All kinds of reasons
During our little discount minuet, the manager demanded to see the mailer from which I'd taken the ad, saying it would explain that the coupon was not good on sale items. I went out to my car and got the ad; it said no such thing.

The manager, whom I'll call Nancy, tried several other tacks. She pored over the fine print in the store's weekly ad -- complaining it was hard to read because the doctor had dilated her eyes that morning -- but nothing in the ad excluded coupons. She said that "corporate" never intended for coupons to be used with sale items, and that's why the computer wouldn't allow it -- the computer is programmed by "corporate."

If that's the case, I suggested, then "not valid with sale items" ought to be written on the coupon.

She looked at it again, noting the phrase "we reserve the right to limit quantities." I'd bought five, the limit noted in the weekly flier. Nancy said, "I'll give you the coupon on one of them." I replied that nowhere on the coupon does it say that it was good for just one item.

"It says 'one-time use', so I'll let you have it for just the one." I suggested that "one-time use" might actually mean that I couldn't use the coupon again the next day.

Nancy said that when I signed up for the store rewards program, I would have gotten an e-mail explaining, among other things, why coupons couldn't be used on sale items. I repeated, "Shouldn't that be written on the coupon itself?"

A real headache
The manager said she'd send my "information" to corporate headquarters and have them explain why coupons can't be used on sale items. First she asked for my driver's license, which I would not have given, and then decided that just my rewards card would do. She wrote down the card number and told me that at $2.99, the store was losing money on the backpacks. Using a coupon made it worse.

I replied that I was familiar with the concept of a loss leader. You lose money on some items to get people into the store.

Finally the manager told the cashier to override the register and ring up the discount for all five backpacks. "I don't want to spend any more time on this. I have a headache," she said.

You and me both, Nancy. Confrontation is not easy for me. I simply wanted Office Depot to make good on its published promise.

Why you should care
Some of you are probably thinking, It's only $3 -- give it up, already. I don't think that the amount matters. The company mailed me a flier full of discounts in the hope I would come to one of its stores. When I tried to use one of those discounts, employees decided that it shouldn't apply to sales.

Suppose you saw a coupon good for 20% off all winter coats, but when you get to the store you're told, "Oh, it's not good on red coats." Or imagine seeing a car ad, "20% off all Chevrolets," but when you get to the dealership you're told that it's only good on four-door sedans.

There's a term for this. It's called bait and switch. Get the customer into the store and then change the terms.

What happened at Office Depot was not a bait and switch per se, but it still wasn't good customer relations. Yes, I understand that the company is taking a hit pricing its backpacks at $2.99 and that an additional 60-cent discount hurts even more. But that's a cost of doing business: Advertise something really cheaply and hope people buy enough other things to make the loss leader worthwhile.

Certainly any company is within its rights to limit coupon use on loss leaders. But if that's what corporate wants, then corporate needs to be very clear, and it needs to do so on the coupon. I don't want to rely on the personal interpretation of a cash register. Or a manager with a headache.

Comments

 

That's all good, but "Nancy" could've just said "no deal, take it or leave it".  What'cha gonna do -- sue them for 3 bucks?

Happened to me once at Pathmark...  Trying to buy Grapefrut juice...  I even took a price tag from the shelf to show the cashier: it said "all Tropicana Orange and Grapefrut".  The cashier said it does not apply to "Golden" and "Ruby Red" grapefrut (she even complimented my "taste"), only to "regular" grapefrut, which they were out of -- "sorry".  Yea right... there is just no such thing as Tropicana "regular" grapefrut juice!

Really, what are the customer's options if the store simply says NO?  Leave the item in the store?  It's a "loss leader", for God's sakes!  Take your business elsewhere?  Like they'd care.  Even if you currently have a cart of goodies that you are threatening to abandon, who are you punishing, really?  More like yourself than the store: you'll have to spend time and gas hunting for those items again, and will probably pay more.  Calling the Customer Service Line would likely be as productive as talking to the manager.  Yes, they may promise to discipline the manager, but in reality they'd just pat him/her on the back.  The bottom line is, the consumer has got no leverage!

Comments?

I stopped doing business with them a long time ago all because of their bait and switch schemes.

I strongly suggest all other people let this comapany sink and not shop there any longer.

Chris, though I understand your point in trying the save the company money, but really, is it worth it to save the company $3.00,  but p*ss off a loyal customer?  In this case it was obvious Office Depot was in the wrong, it would have been different if she was trying to use an expired coupon or a coupon that specifically states "not valid on sale items".  She was using a legitimate coupon and had every right to expect the store to honor it.

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ir is people like you that MAKES REATAIL SSSSSSSSUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have never found Office Depot to have bad cutomer service, quite the opposite.  Why didn't you just put the stuff back and stop going to the store.  With all of the time you wasted, you could have donated it to some other good cause instead of spending an hour in the store and another day of your life trying to get attention.  Have you ever heard the term, "time is money."  Now I have just wasted 5 minutes of my time reading this stupid article.

If I were standing in line behind you with my kids I think I would have gone crazy on you and the store.  Have you ever thought about that. You remind me of the lady that is in the check out stand at the grocery store and goes over ever last coupon with the poor clerk, finds out everything is fine, and has no concern over the people waiting in line behind them.  Get over yourself.....

If the sale price is $2.99 and your coupon is 20% off ....the amount you are argueing about is just $.30 each. You must (should) have better things to do with your time.

Way to hang in there and get that discount!  Smart consumers should not be punished for trying to save money!!  If companies don't want us to use

coupons, then don't send them out!!!  

I have a ridiculous story concerning my own local Office Depot.  I bought a mouse and keyboard set that had a rebate, but I found a better deal somewhere else.  I went back to return the set, but I was told that because there was a rebate on the item, they'd only refund me the cost minus the amount of the rebate because I could have sent in the rebate already.  I pointed out that the item still had the original UPC on it so I couldn't have sent in the rebate, to which the assistant manager countered that this particular rebate doesn't require the original UPC, only a copy.  I told them that it did require the original UPC and I showed them a copy of the rebate to prove my point.  After reading it over multiple times, they finally agreed to refund me the full price of the item.  I asked them afterwards, "So any time that someone returns an item with a rebate, it's assumed that they already sent in the rebate and they won't be refunded the full amount?"  Their response was, "Basically, yes."  I was infuriated.

Home Depot is just as bad. I received a coupon in the mail from them for 20% off my next purhcase. When we got there, it would not scan so they called over the Manager. She looked at it and said it was fake as Home Depot only sends out 10% coupons. She was very loud about this and implied that I made a fake coupon. I told her, no I signed up when we moved and they sent me a 10% one and then we just received this one.. I even still had the envelope. She then said lets go see online, I told her again, I signed up on line and theymailed it to me, it did not print out. Long story short, she refused to honor the 20%, but after telling her I was leaving and going to Lowe's, she gave me 10%... we still lost $50 on it for the extra 10% she did not honor but honestly I did not want to run to Lowes and pick everything out again. Am I mad, yes, will I go to Home Depot again, NO.

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