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Extreme-saving choice: Live in your van

Posted Jul 10 2008, 05:04 PM by Karen Datko
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To those readers who have cut spending every which way they can, but find it's not enough, "Tight Fisted Miser" offers an extreme idea -- live in a van.

The 40-year-old law student is seriously considering a van-dwelling experience when his apartment lease runs out in the fall.

Is Tight Fisted Miser just floating a trial balloon to see how many readers will tell him he's nuts?  After all, he isn't planning an extended retirement RV trip. He's going to park the van down by the river in Kansas City, Mo., shower at the university, and cook his meals in a microwave there.

Needless to say, most people don't choose to live without a real roof over their heads. While it's unclear how many have been made homeless by the nation's abysmal foreclosure rate, their stories are surfacing and they are not pretty.

A USA Today story says:

More than 300 school districts in the USA have reported a rise in homeless children because of the foreclosure crisis, according to a soon-to-be-released report by the National Association for the Education of Homeless Children and Youth and First Focus. Areas that are absorbing the biggest surges include Michigan, California, Florida, parts of Illinois and the suburbs around Houston. As of April 1, Cleveland schools enrolled more than 2,100 homeless students, a 30% increase from last year.

So far, Tight Fisted Miser's readers have been supportive. Summer Fey Foovay wrote: "My husband and I actually lived in our car and a tent for several months a couple of years ago. We enjoyed it so much we seriously discussed making it a permanent change." "KRod" said, "I always dreamed of doing this. Good luck."

Maybe certain bragging rights come with the experience. Reader "shoyu" said, "Even if you only last until winter, you'll always be able to tell people you once lived in a van."

Tight Fisted Miser says his other choice is to get rid of his car, which costs him on average $263 a month even though it's paid for. But he'd have to quit his pizza-delivery job. He likes the flexibility driving allows, so it looks like vehicle will trump apartment in his future life plans.

Van living will be an adventure, he says. One of our favorite books, "Blue Highways" by William Least Heat-Moon, inspires him. After conferring with other van-dwelling types, he says, "I've realized that this dream is actually quite feasible and I intend to make it a reality this year."

Comments

 

I did this for a month, and it was a life-changing experience. First I tried doing it while I still had an apartment so I still had a place to live if I couldn't handle it. But it really wasn't bad, in fact it was quite liberating. Buying a gym membership really helps for showering and staying in shape. The hardest part is finding parking for the night, be careful and trust your instincts.

Hello World!!! I lost my job in the summer and had no choice but to move to a small space myself. My small space is a 33 foot boat. I am fortunate to have a place like this since I have air-conditioning, refrigerator and toilet/shower. My accommodations are small but I have a place to call home. Rain, wind, and some severe thunderstorms has caused some uneasy times but I have fiberglass over my head to keep me out of the elements. Many things go through your mind when you live in a small space and you feel like you have been treated unfairly. Honestly, all kinds of things go through your mind that are not healthy and somehow I make it through. I'm living day by day seeing where the next day will take me. It's an uneasy feeling knowing that I was on top of the world with an incredible job and career and then one day you've lost everything. Not only did I lose my job, but I lost something much more valuable... my dignity and self worth. Well, I could write a book surrounding my last 4 months in my small place I call home and everything I've gone through but I won't bore anyone with my insignificcant story. All I have to say to anyone reading this, is to have faith... that is the only thing that is keeping me positive and looking to the future... I just say to myself, it has to get better one day.... I just have to have a positive attitude and think that at least I have a place that keeps me dry and I have a small berth to sleep on. Even to this date, if I see someone that is hungry I give them what I can because I know that they are more desperate than me to survive. We are all survivors!!!

when I was in engineering school, I worked for the semiconductors lab and had a small office 4x6.  I could not afford my apartment and decided to live in my office. I did it for three semesters and a summer. maybe you can hook up with a professor and do some research or something where you can have a little office to keep you personal belonging. most colleges have a gym for students, you can shower -- free!!!

free microwave at the cafeteria.  you can get pretty creative...

go for it.It Iam a living proof .I  had  that exp  when I was yunger  .and save  a lots of money .now I llive  on a 8500 sq feet  house    closed to the bay area en mexico...good luck

Your only real problem is the authorities, you will b e charged with vagrancy, ie no permanent address...yep, the only problem i have is where to park at night !!

Haha, believe it or not, I live in San diego and I am about to start living in my van.  I literally just bought it this past Friday.   For the naysayers, I figure that in expenses I will be saving approximately $800 a month.  That is a significant chunk of money that can go to pay down debt or to stockpile for any number of reasons.    On top of that, because I have more free money, I will have greater ability to do the things that I want to do.  Road trips to San Francisco, or snowboarding at mammoth, fishing trips, stuff that I would normally have to save for weeks to afford is now readily affordable.   Some nights I spend getting drunk at friends houses.  Instead of driving home I now have somewhere comfortable to sleep.  

With modern technology its also entirely possible to stay connected while on the road.   My van has 2 batteries for the engine, and 2 more "house" batteries hooked up to an inverter.  With this I can run TVs, laptops, video games, etc.   For the laptop I have a Sprint wireless access card that gets me 1mbps internet.   Plenty to surf and use Hulu.   Heck, I have even been thinking of getting a Directv receiver to put on top.  

Van living is not nearly as dangerous or uncomfortable as many make it out to be.  It can often be a solution to issues such as desires for travel, or escape from paycheck to paycheck living.   I figure that I can be completely 100% out of debt in 8-10 months.   A feat that would take me several years if I was to continue paying just $200 a month.  

With the economy crashing around us we all need to be open to radical ideas.    

For those who are saying van-life is stupid, dangerous, or expensive, I have to disagree.  I have been living in my van for 2 months now.  I have a YMCA membership for showering and spend my days in coffee shops when I'm not in school or at work.  That's right, college and a full time job and I live in my van and it's great.  You cannot begin to imagine how much it simplifies life.  From a societal perspective, you are using up far fewer resources (electricity, gas for heating, etc).  It really gives you a new perspective.  Good luck!

WOW!!! THIS SOUNDS GREAT!!! AND I'M THINKING OF IT MYSELF - JUST LOST MY HOME - TO FORECLOSEURE!!  BUT "SOCIETY" IS THE KILLER HERE!!!! IF YOU ARE PARKED ON "THEIR" STREET, PROPERTY - WHATEVER - THEY COULD MAKE LIFE HELL FOR YOU!!!! BUT IT DOES SOUND FUN!! SAVE YOUR MONEY TOO!! CAMP AT GROUNDS AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AFFORD TO - JUST TO "GET OFF THE STREET"  OCCASSIONALLY. - ONE LAST WORD: WHAT DO YOUR PARENTS THINK ABOUT ALL THIS? JUST OUT OF CURIOUSITY? GOD BLESS - TAKE CARE!! I WISH I WAS IN THE POSITION TO HELP U!!!!!!!!! TAMARA

Thugs,Cops,knocking on the window at night? What nonsence and general life inexperience as such, never mind knowing anything about van dwelling or people psychology.1.get a van with few windows and block out the light at night.2.park at walmart at night or a street adojining a large apartment complex with other cars around you.3.stay out of yuppy areas of town.4.don't socialize with bums ,druggies etc and talk to them while your van doors are open so passing cops or nossy dog walking neighborhood lowlives can report you.5.keep clean by washing and taking baths in a large plastic tub.6.don,t have to keep it secret,nobody gives a damn any way.save money and have a positive outlook.7.don't keep smelly fleabag pets with you in your van.Good luck

The Salvation Army are great people. Locate the nearest one in your town and volunteer for the day,or  week, and you can still sleep in their parking lot, if you wish.

You will have  a place to shower and wash clothing, and decent food. Watch your stuff, for there are criminals who like to steal from the guests.

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