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Debt collectors go after expired Verizon bills

Posted Apr 21 2008, 01:09 PM by Karen Datko
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This post comes from Joseph S. Enoch at partner bog ConsumerAffairs.com.

Consumers around the country are complaining that Afni Inc., a debt-collection agency, has been calling and mailing, demanding that consumers pay old Verizon telephone debts, some of them as much as 10 years old.

But consumer advocates say that many of the debts are so old that, under the statute of limitations, consumers are not required to pay and the debt should not be reported to credit agencies.

"I have just received a bill from Afni stating I owe on an old Verizon account in the amount of $90.86 and that they will settle for $45.43," wrote Diana of Madera, Calif. "The account number they claim is for a Verizon phone number.

"This is very interesting because I have never had Verizon," Diana said. "I have never had this bill show up on any past credit reports. So I checked my current credit reports and found them listing that I owe them. I paid for a search on the phone number they listed and I am not connected to that number. I called Verizon California Inc. and spoke to Eric. He said that it wasn't even a Verizon number and they had no records of me on any account!"

Diana's complaint is similar to the others ConsumerAffairs.com has received in a little over a year. In almost every case the debts are many years old, while consumers say they never had the accounts in question and have never been a Verizon customer.

But Verizon and Afni spokespeople say the debts are real and that if people don't pay up, their credit could be damaged.

Defunct companies

The reason most consumers say they never were a Verizon customer is likely because they weren't, but they may have been a customer with one of the many companies that became Verizon, said Bill Kula, Verizon spokesman. Verizon took over many companies through mergers and acquisitions, including Bell Atlantic, MCI, Nynex, GTE and other companies.

Along with those mergers came millions of delinquent accounts, which Verizon sold to Afni over the past year and a half. And even though the acquired companies no longer exist, Afni insists the debts have survived intact.

Both Kula and Deborah Ciskey, Afni's director of compliance, said consumers are probably "confused" because the debts are from a service with an older carrier. Kula said many people who purchased dial-up Internet many years ago from their old phone company may be getting these bills and just forgot that that they had a delinquent account with MCI, for example.

However, some consumers say there is no mistake and they have no debt with any phone company.

"I received a collection notice from Afni Inc., stating I owe them $280.05 for a disconnected phone service ...," wrote Pamela of Danbury, Conn. "I have never owned that telephone number. Also, on the notice, it states that the original creditor is Bell Atlantic. I never had phone service with Bell Atlantic."

Consumers say that despite their protestations, Afni posts the debt to credit agencies.

Successful suit

Joe Mullaney, an attorney who successfully sued Afni for using potentially illegal means to collect on a debt, said consumers should not pay these debts if they believe they are not legitimate, no matter how insistent Afni is.

"People are paying these debts and they don't even owe it," Mullaney said.

Although Kula said the vast majority of the debts are two to three years old, some consumers say they are as old as 13 years, yet the company appears to be persistent no matter how old the debt.

Statute of limitations

If the debts are seven years old or older, the statute of limitations on the debt has expired, meaning Afni has very limited enforcement capabilities to collect on those old debts, Mullaney said.

"Federal courts ... have opined that generally a debt collector may ask you to pay a debt if it is time-barred by the statute of limitations," Mullaney said.

All the collector can do is politely ask consumers to pay, he said. There is no requirement that they do so.

Similar time limitations exist for debt reporting, Mullaney said. A debt that is seven years old or older cannot negatively affect a consumer's credit score.

Mullaney said Afni threatened to report his client's eight-year-old debt to the credit bureaus, and his client went ahead and paid for fear of damaging her credit even though there was no way a credit bureau could post that to her report.

"Debt collectors know that one of the most powerful tools of wrenching payment out of consumers is to report them to the credit bureaus," Mullaney said. "The reason for that is because people have an irrational protection of their credit report, when in fact they should be protecting their rights."

Mullaney and his client won their case and received a settlement of about $4,300, he said.

"I take the position under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, which says that the debt collector cannot make deceptive statements or false statements," Mullaney said.

The Illinois Attorney General's Office has an active investigation into Afni, said office spokeswoman Natalie Bauer. She could give no further details but said the office has received "around 900" complaints over the past eight years.

Consumers who wish to take legal action against Afni should find a local attorney through the National Association of Consumer Advocates Web site, Mullaney said. Consumers should also file complaints with the Illinois attorney general.

Comments

 

I Am having the same problem wrong phone #,s Help

kim

Kim,

Type in BudHibbs.com and look under agenceys to afoid.

Click on AFNI, Inc.

Read Bud's message,

Click on consumer comments.

Also google Complaints AFNI, Inc.

I found over 6000 of them and lawsuits against them.

NY TV station has a story about them and blog.

Letters:

DV them

Then:

CD them

Dispute with 3 big CR's.

Contact IL. Attorney General

Best of luck,

Diana

Thank you for this info!! I have this same problem with Afni as a collection account on my credit report. I have called verizon and they state that they have no record of me on a account!! Thank you, Thank you for this info!!

I had the same problem with this company. THey said I owed a bill from 11 years ago and I never had service with them or any of the affliiates they claim to have bought out. I will not pay the debt.

Unfortunately this has been a trend for these bottom feeding Collection Agencies for the past few years. If they threaten to take you to court, indicate that is fine and request copies of all documentationshowing this bill is your responsibility. If a Court date is assigned, go and represent yourself. Usually the Court will require pretrial mediation in which you can meet face to face with their attorney. This happened with my Girlfriend and we met the Attorney at the Courthouse. They were trying to collect with a bogus account statement and a copy of the rules of the credit account. No signature, no applications, no copies of signed charge slips...just two garbage documents. I told them we would be more than happy to go in front of the Judge and we would be asking the Judge how to counter sue them in Small Claims Court for harrassment and payment of lost wages to come to Court on a frivilous suit. Needless to say they dropped the collection effort.

Stand up to these bottom feeders in a professional manner. It is their responsibility to prove without doubt the bill is yours and if they attempt to make a negative report to the Credit Bureau, dispute it.

I had Verizon but will never use them they pulled this on my girl freind so for them getting their 150 bucks they lost a contract from me for life.

Again everyone dispute the bill and check your state's S.O.L. laws.

Type in BudHibbs.com and look under agenceys to avoid.

Click on AFNI, Inc.

Read Bud's message

Best of luck everyone,

Diana

I just received a call from Afni stating I owe on an Alltel account from 11 years ago.  I do not even remember having an Alltel account.  The person who called said I owed 36 dollars and wanted immediate payment.  I told her to mail me proof of my owing this bill because it was the first time I have heard of my ever owing Alltel a dime.  I was told she had no proof from Alltel but would send a note from Afni stating I owed 36 dollars.  I'm glad I found this website and will report them to consumer affairs if and when I receive their statement.

Reta 6-27-08

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