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Frugality is not a competition

Posted Feb 18 2008, 11:25 AM by Donna Freedman
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Ever seen that Monty Python skit about the "Four Yorkshiremen"? A quartet of rich guys sit around talking of the poverty they knew in the old days. The stories get more and more outlandish as they compete to see whose life was the toughest.

Amy Clark, who writes the Motherload blog, seemed to channel the Four Yorkshiremen in a piece for the Frugal Hacks site. In "Four frugal hackers sitting at the bus stop," a quartet of frugalists compete to see whose life is the thriftiest.

For Amy, this kind of one-upmanship is personal. She'll feel good about something she's posted on her personal-finance blog -- until someone leaves a comment "about how they have done that for years and what you should have done."

Gee, thanks.

Why so negative?
Likely you've had something like this happen to you. You share your excitement about, say, learning a new skill or getting a job -- and you get shot down. Oh, I learned how to knit in the third grade. You're working for XYZ firm -- what a bunch of crooks!

To be told your financial management isn't up to snuff can be just as deflating. As Amy notes, "We are all in such different places on our saving money journey."

If someone talks (or posts) about money management, he needs encouragement rather than lectures. People can turn their lives around, but it's easier when you aren't being told you're doing it wrong. In a Smart Spending message board post, a reader recently wrote about establishing an emergency fund and a savings account, and hoping to buy a home in 2009.

Pretty ordinary stuff -- except that until recently, this reader was always in the red before payday: "ALWAYS! I can't tell you how much money I have given to the banks in overdraft fees."

Overdraft fees are bad! Quick, let's tell this reader how we'd never do such a foolish thing!

Or not. Why be dismissive of someone who's trying to change?

We're not the money police
Frugality is not a competition. It isn't about who saves the most money or who has the most pared-down life. It's about using money intentionally and making smart financial choices.

But you can make those choices only for yourself. What works for you might be onerous or well-nigh impossible for others. Even lifelong frugalists vary on the merits of, say, washing plastic bags or cooking all meals at home.

If someone shares a strategy that seems obvious, there's no need to respond with a dismissive, "Duh, everybody knows about saving spare change."

Similarly, we don't get to decree what other people "should" be doing. We're not the money police. We don't get to demand accountability, so to speak.

Suppose a spendthrift co-worker confesses to credit card debt and says she's going to start eating at cheaper lunch places. Self-righteously sniffing that you always brown-bag your lunch won't help. Showing her how to find restaurant coupons will.

Offering to share some personal-finance URLs or loan your favorite money-management books might also help. They could  even be life-changing.

But only if she's ready to change. That's her decision, not yours. So is whether or not she washes plastic bags.

Comments

 

Thank You! Somebody had to say it. No I don't make my own laundry soap but I do get it cheaper than they spend to make it using coupons. No I don't rewash my plastic bags or brown bags my lunch. I make other choices and live very well. I have a big screen (I pressure washed in a barter deal to get), I have DSL (I spend less than if I had dial up), I go out to eat a few times a week ( with coupons), and I have a laptop, a desktop, and every person in my house has there own pc (I pressure wash, fixed up old one, searched online sales). I have all these things but I very frugal! No competition just money saved. I went online this summer ask for some advice in MSN money boards. They treated me like an idiot and put all the blame on me. Look I am looking for advice, I don't need judgement, I know I am in trouble but that is why I am asking for help. Either offer advice or say nothing at all!

That's a brilliant piece that Amy has written. This one-upmanship can be seen on a lot of forums and blogs out there and I applaud her for calling them out. Thanks for sharing!

For the most part, the personal finance blog community is a great one. I just joined in posting on a blog of my own less than a week ago, and already I have quite a bit of support from family, friends and a couple others in the community. The best thing anyone can do is encourage steps in the right direction. A lot of plans talk about "baby steps," and just because someone might be on number five and another just started, there's no reason to gloat about your progress. We all have to start somewhere, and it's nice to get a pat on the back for making a change in the right direction.

Very well said!! Remember folks, we don't all get together to chat on blogs and forums because of our differences. We are drawn to the same boards because of our similarities!! Instead of competing with each other, let's HELP AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER!! You were new to this once too, so instead of rubbing all your great money savings smarts in everone elses face, SHARE your lessons, and take the time to listen to others, you may learn a few new tricks yourselves!!

I could have said the same thing with way fewer words!

Jeff...  that was the funniest thing I've heard/read all day!!!  

I am so impressed with the American people..I really enjoy posters on the business blogs...I have learned a great deal, and have had an opportunity to reach out and share my knowledge and care for others....our diversity makes us interesting and sometimes funny...thank you for the opportunity.

Donna

Thank you for writing this, I try to convey that to my readers - to each their own, but if you are looking for ways to save, here are a few.

Puttiing people down just makes the everyone feel bad

Keep up the great writing!

Donna - You said a mouthful, let's hope some of these anonymous 'one-uppers' will read (and deservedly choke on) your words and stop such unnecessary behavior.  Having been raised in a tightwad family, my first encounter with money was to spend, spend, spend.  It took years to turn my bad habits around, but starting a family changed my viewpoint.  Now I'm able to offer wisdom from experinece to my grandchildren, and it's rewarding to hear them get excited about their own new discoveries on being frugal and enjoy their interest as they share them with me.

Frugal rules. I live in the Caribbean, and I lived on basically 500 a month before marriage, and at the age of 27, My net worth is 1/4 million. Save all you can for a rainy day and let compound interest triple the rest.

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