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You're frugal but your spouse is not

Posted Feb 08 2008, 08:04 AM by Karen Datko
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This post comes from Trent Hamm at partner blog The Simple Dollar.

Readers often leave comments at The Simple Dollar complaining that they make frugal choices, but their spouses see their savings not as a long-term financial benefit but as more money to spend right now.

Thus, their frugal ways go without a long-term reward. They're careful about spending their money, but their bank account balances don't grow.

I'm lucky. My wife is very frugal, and we share the same philosophy. In fact, she's probably more frugal than I am. Her only weakness is books, but she participates in PaperBackSwap to keep the cost low. She's in line with my goals: freedom from debt, saving for major purchases so we don't have more debt. Our goal as a family is to eliminate all of our debt by my 40th birthday.

Unfortunately, many people aren't in such a lucky situation. They may be in sync with their spouses in a number of ways, but in terms of personal spending, they're in different worlds. Naturally, the frugal spouse is going to be frustrated, watching his or her efforts dissipate in a spending binge. On the other hand, the spending spouse probably feels frustration too, because his or her partner won't "live a little."

How can these two sides meet? Here are five suggestions, culled from a number of sources, particularly my own experiences interacting with my spouse and observing other couples, as well as the excellent "It Pays to Talk."

Accept that your spouse is operating with a different set of beliefs. You believe in the power of frugal living and have chosen to live frugally. That's great. Realize, though, that it is a choice and that your spouse has made a different choice. You can't force people to agree with you, but you may be able to convince them over time to make a different choice for themselves.

Accentuate the positives of frugality. Point out some of the more obvious frugal choices and indicate how much of a difference they will make. "If we hold off a year in replacing the car but save up the money now, we'll save $6,000." "If we skip one shopping spree a month and turn that saved money into one extra house payment a year, we can pay off our mortgage five years earlier. Think about how much extra money we would have each month then."

When making spur-of-the-moment entertainment or social choices, suggest frugality but don't point it out. If your spouse wants to do something today, take the initiative and suggest something that doesn't break your budget. Instead of a trip to the mall, suggest going to a free museum. Instead of going out to eat somewhere expensive, propose that you make a romantic dinner at home. The best tactic is to suggest the idea spontaneously, but don't focus on the fact that it's cheap.

Make your saving automatic. One reader has a spouse who, at the end of the month, sees what remains in the checking account as extra money to spend. Set up a separate savings account and have a certain amount transferred to that fund on a regular basis. That way, there isn't "leftover" cash in the checking account, and you can use that savings account stash for major purchases, like a car down payment.

Propose "equal spending." If none of the above work well, propose that the "extra" money be spent equally, then sock yours away. If there's $200 left at the end of the month, you each take $100. Your spouse spends it, and you save it. This works well if it's pretty clear that your spouse won't come around to making frugal choices.

Most of these ideas have one thing in common: They demonstrate the benefits of frugality without the preaching. Don't tell your spouse how great frugality is and how "bad" she or he is for not believing in it. Instead, walk the walk and let your spouse see the benefits.

Eventually -- hopefully -- the power of frugal living will become clear.

Never, ever push it to confrontation. That will just result in two unhappy people in a marriage. If you're constantly telling your spouse to spend less, resentment is probably building up, and that's a tactic that always ends in failure. Instead, focus on being a good example of frugality, and when the benefits are clear, point them out.

Also, be willing to compromise a little. If your spouse wants to go out for a nice dinner on occasion, go along with it. Marriage is about compromise, in the end.

Other articles of interest at The Simple Dollar:

"Afraid to talk about money with your spouse? 10 tips for 'The Talk'"

"Review: 'It Pays to Talk'"

"6 ways to follow up that big financial talk with your spouse"

Comments

 

Our Rule 1: Until both of us agree, we cant buy that item.  

Rule 2 : Credit card spending on miscellaneuos like lunch etc is fixed monthly.

Rule 3: We have a prioritized list of big ticket items that we need, we go down the list when we have the money.

We are both not frugal but have had to resort to these rules for financial planning.

I'm one of the lucky ones whose wife is as frugal as I am. Being frugal doesn't mean you have to be cheap. Iin fact we buy better quality furniture and appliances when something needs replaced as they tend to last longer being cheaper in the long run. Also being frugal means we have $ to help our children and grandkids ( a great feeling to be able to help when you want to. Debt is sometimes necessary but is used too readily by our sociaty, both by individuals and government. How do we get our government officials to be caring and yet fiscally responsable?

In reading many of the posts regarding the topic of spending verses saving, I have been made aware of how fortunate I am that my wife and I have always been on the same page when it comes to NEVER giving someone our hard earned money in late fees, interest, etc. except for mortgage interest.  We started and continue to buy used cars for cash, and pay off credit cards every month.  I was taught that what saving does for you is give you flexibility, and as I have gotten older, I see now that sacrifices we made in the past are going to allow us to decide when to retire, rather than having debt or lack of savings determine that for us!  Being deathly afraid of debt because I was raised frugally, when we first married and got a credit card, for 12 months I subtracted each charged transaction from our checking account to be sure we didn't spend beyond our means.  Once we passed that period of time, we managed to never spend more than we could pay off each month.  Because we trusted each other early on, we have always kept a joint account because it made spending by both of us transparent to one another.  I always felt people who needed separate accounts needed anonimity about their spending habits, but if you and your spouse are on the same page concerning your finances, what is there to hide?  But, as has been mentioned many times already, your ability to discern whether something is a need or a want, most directly effects your ability to save.

So, all the fun money between you and your husband gets divided equally, and one of you gets to continuously spend yours on whatever you want to buy while the other "saves" it to set an example (or in my case... save my half so I can put it towards debt!).  That seems extremely unfair.  

If I had known nearly 30 years ago what I know now there are many things I would have done differently. My husband came from a family that managed their money well. Unfortunately that is not true of him. He somehow thinks that I can save money, pay the bills and still leave him with whatever money he wants to spend. He puts his head in the sand but I am the one who is sinking in it. Other than this area of our lives he is a very kind and loving man.

Wife/spouse as run up debts all over the place and not set up any payments of any kind,

Asked her if she needed my help to sort out the medical debts, she then gave me the bills and I’ve set up payments plans with the companies

Now finding information of different address out of state E.G bank

Medical records have moving to California, which I know nothing about

Phone switched off, answer machine switched off, does not want me to phone her at work when I get home.

Looks like she getting ready to run and leave me with all the debts.

We've had to file bankruptcy because of my husband's many money mismanagement.   He's addicted to stupid get rich schemes that always leave us in debt and using our savings to cover for his losses.  The patience in me is wearing off because I feel the children and I are always having to settle for HIS mistakes.  So I'm always the bad guy for getting angry and losing my cool.  I don't think I can keep up with this any longer.  As far as being a nice guy, father and husband, he is.  But this bad habit of his is destroying our marriage!  

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