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You're frugal but your spouse is not

Posted Feb 08 2008, 08:04 AM by Karen Datko
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This post comes from Trent Hamm at partner blog The Simple Dollar.

Readers often leave comments at The Simple Dollar complaining that they make frugal choices, but their spouses see their savings not as a long-term financial benefit but as more money to spend right now.

Thus, their frugal ways go without a long-term reward. They're careful about spending their money, but their bank account balances don't grow.

I'm lucky. My wife is very frugal, and we share the same philosophy. In fact, she's probably more frugal than I am. Her only weakness is books, but she participates in PaperBackSwap to keep the cost low. She's in line with my goals: freedom from debt, saving for major purchases so we don't have more debt. Our goal as a family is to eliminate all of our debt by my 40th birthday.

Unfortunately, many people aren't in such a lucky situation. They may be in sync with their spouses in a number of ways, but in terms of personal spending, they're in different worlds. Naturally, the frugal spouse is going to be frustrated, watching his or her efforts dissipate in a spending binge. On the other hand, the spending spouse probably feels frustration too, because his or her partner won't "live a little."

How can these two sides meet? Here are five suggestions, culled from a number of sources, particularly my own experiences interacting with my spouse and observing other couples, as well as the excellent "It Pays to Talk."

Accept that your spouse is operating with a different set of beliefs. You believe in the power of frugal living and have chosen to live frugally. That's great. Realize, though, that it is a choice and that your spouse has made a different choice. You can't force people to agree with you, but you may be able to convince them over time to make a different choice for themselves.

Accentuate the positives of frugality. Point out some of the more obvious frugal choices and indicate how much of a difference they will make. "If we hold off a year in replacing the car but save up the money now, we'll save $6,000." "If we skip one shopping spree a month and turn that saved money into one extra house payment a year, we can pay off our mortgage five years earlier. Think about how much extra money we would have each month then."

When making spur-of-the-moment entertainment or social choices, suggest frugality but don't point it out. If your spouse wants to do something today, take the initiative and suggest something that doesn't break your budget. Instead of a trip to the mall, suggest going to a free museum. Instead of going out to eat somewhere expensive, propose that you make a romantic dinner at home. The best tactic is to suggest the idea spontaneously, but don't focus on the fact that it's cheap.

Make your saving automatic. One reader has a spouse who, at the end of the month, sees what remains in the checking account as extra money to spend. Set up a separate savings account and have a certain amount transferred to that fund on a regular basis. That way, there isn't "leftover" cash in the checking account, and you can use that savings account stash for major purchases, like a car down payment.

Propose "equal spending." If none of the above work well, propose that the "extra" money be spent equally, then sock yours away. If there's $200 left at the end of the month, you each take $100. Your spouse spends it, and you save it. This works well if it's pretty clear that your spouse won't come around to making frugal choices.

Most of these ideas have one thing in common: They demonstrate the benefits of frugality without the preaching. Don't tell your spouse how great frugality is and how "bad" she or he is for not believing in it. Instead, walk the walk and let your spouse see the benefits.

Eventually -- hopefully -- the power of frugal living will become clear.

Never, ever push it to confrontation. That will just result in two unhappy people in a marriage. If you're constantly telling your spouse to spend less, resentment is probably building up, and that's a tactic that always ends in failure. Instead, focus on being a good example of frugality, and when the benefits are clear, point them out.

Also, be willing to compromise a little. If your spouse wants to go out for a nice dinner on occasion, go along with it. Marriage is about compromise, in the end.

Other articles of interest at The Simple Dollar:

"Afraid to talk about money with your spouse? 10 tips for 'The Talk'"

"Review: 'It Pays to Talk'"

"6 ways to follow up that big financial talk with your spouse"

Comments

 

I've been an example of frugality, thriftiness and saving for 24 years.  It hasn't helped one bit!  this year my husband came to me with ideas of refinancing our house to pay off $30,000 in credit card debt HE had acquired without my knowing.  I would have incurred a prepayment penalty on my mortgage to cosign for debt I didn't agree to.  I stuck to my guns and refused to refinance.  He had to go to a credit counseling service for help.  His credit is damaged so hopefully it won't be so easy for him to spend money he doesn't have on stuff he doesn't need.  He even raided our tax escrow account so auto transfer doesn't help in this situation.  The only thing that has stopped him is a Christmas club savings account with auto deposit that has a penalty for early withdrawal.  Perhaps knowing he gets $2000 every October is enough to postpone his craving for spending.  

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Love ya, John

Thanks for the wonderful advice! I've been frustrated with this problem for a while now, and this seems like a good way to begin addressing it. I see it as something we could both 'ease' into, opening up some possible chanels of communication, rather than continuing to treat our finances as a 'do not discuss' topic. Much appreciated!

There are people who are so cheap that it is disgusting. They use every opportunity to save and save, for what, to die and leave it here, or give it to hospitals or nursing homes?  There is nothing wrong with being frugal, there is something wrong with being cheap!  If you are saving for a united goal, that is different, but just confronting your spouse constantly about spending every little dollar is one way to get DIVORCED!  PERIOD!  

Sometimes you hsave to push it to a confrontation. When the spending is endangering your family's abiulity to send the kids to college or your ability to provide for yourself later, you may have to draw a line at some point. Tactfully, considerately, but a finacial crash can take a marriage with it, and you can't let that happen.

There is another option - get it worked out NOW or get a new spouse.

Money management is one of the BIG 3-4 reasons marriages fail, not what you make so much as your agreements as to how to spend it. After 10 years of both of us working and "never pushing it to a confrontation", then 3 more year of bloody battle due to our lack of savings and even increasing credit card debt, I do not miss the sleepless nights at all. While I miss his energy and some of our old life, I have had positive savings the last 5 years, paid off my car and second mortgage, and found a guy with the same money values I have. I wish I had done it sooner. Working out your money handling differences will be more critical to your emotional trust and comfort in your relationship than you will ever know. If your spouse can not be a steward for your assets and what is important to you, including your hard earned money, how is this good for your marriage?

I finally got my wife to understand about paying off the credit cards when I pointed out to her that the interest we were paying on the card balances each month could be used to purchase a nice outfit. It took us several months to pay it off but we stuck with it and paid it off. We have carried no balances on our cards for the last ten years!

My husband loves to spend money. I love to save money. Hence we have two seperate bank accounts. His with $5 mine with $10,000.

I'm in the same boat as PJ, but I wasn't smart enough to hold the line at refinancing.  We took out a second mortgage last September to pay all our credit card bills and we already have about $8,000 new credit card debt.  I don't know how to get out of this mess since most of the credit is against our joint accounts.  Now what???

These are good ideas, five years ago I learned of my wife's credit card spending by a third party, (the credit mamager at the car lot)! I understand the no comunication part, we live in a commuity prperty state so what the spouse does affect the other, we refied the house to cover the dept, now live within our means, and have a plan to pay off the mortgage in 10 years.  only one credit card and adebit card. so if we have a need (an honest need) to purchase and not enough funds in savings we check for layway option. it has taken a while but she now sees the benifits to frugal spending,

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